Ubuntu's Unity Decision Affects 2D Performance Too

[Aleve Sicofante]

Let me quote you ...
Hm....

OK. Still, that's not the point.

I hope someone with a brain can actually respond to the real issue.

[curaga]

Let me quote you word for word:

No one would have used Unity 2D on that system, anyway.

Hm....

[Aleve Sicofante]

You're saying that it's completely impossible for somebody to actually _prefer_ not to run Unity 3d if their machine is capable of it. I'm here to prove you wrong, my machine is well able to run Unity 3d, yet I don't.

Sigh... No. I'm not saying that.

Anybody else out there?

[curaga]

Dear supertroll: I'm so happy for you. Now back to the point: can we have a comparison of Unity 2D and Unity 3D on a machine that would actually need the llvmpipe driver? It's pointless to run these tests on systems that would have never run Unity 2D in the first place because they're are capable of running Unity 3D. Isn't that obvious?

Oh how I love popping in to break all these "nobody does" "everybody does" generalizations

You're saying that it's completely impossible for somebody to actually _prefer_ not to run Unity 3d if their machine is capable of it. I'm here to prove you wrong, my machine is well able to run Unity 3d, yet I don't.

[Aleve Sicofante]

Dear troll, I run JWM on Phenom x6.

Dear supertroll: I'm so happy for you. Now back to the point: can we have a comparison of Unity 2D and Unity 3D on a machine that would actually need the llvmpipe driver? It's pointless to run these tests on systems that would have never run Unity 2D in the first place because they're are capable of running Unity 3D. Isn't that obvious?

[curaga]

What's the point of comparing the llvmpiped version of Unity with Unity 2D on such a powerful and modern system? No one would have used Unity 2D on that system, anyway.

Come back with some Pentium M results and we'll talk.

Dear troll, I run JWM on Phenom x6.

[Aleve Sicofante]

What's the point of comparing the llvmpiped version of Unity with Unity 2D on such a powerful and modern system? No one would have used Unity 2D on that system, anyway.

Come back with some Pentium M results and we'll talk.

[ickle]

"My results are bad and I should feel bad."

Some^W Most of those results look mighty strange, and it would be hard to make any judgements based on them. An alternative look at IVB GT2 with SNA and gnome-shell is here: http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1...SU-1208209SU05. I had some UXA results as well to compare, but alas I am still waiting for those to upload.

[drag]

Don't care. It's fast enough and with compositing it means it has to render 2d less. So it more then evens out in most cases.

[sagetarian]

i think we're exagerating a bit .. unity 3d is doing quite well in those benchmarks .. equalling and performing better in certain areas and equalling performing not so well in others .. personally unity 2d has never been the saviour for mine and much slower systems as everyone cracks it up to be .. the performance was the same if the graphics could support 3d drawing .. so we can't assume anything to get some real info on the LLVMpipe'd Unity 3D .. i'm sure there will be a drop in performance, but as far as these benchmarks show, with the added ability to support 1 DE over 2 seperate ones i'm sure optimization will be able to be done on a far better level than either Unity 2d or Unity 3d can do seperately .. Unity 2d isn't useless by any means, i just think that instead of Unity 2d developers always having to play catch up with new unity specs, they can actually work on one code base and do what they do best .. and thats make Ubuntu feel less bloated