Arch Linux Install Media Updated For July 2012

[curaga]

Not every benchs depends on your desktop...

If you run disk IO benchs, or httpd benchs, then it depends on your kernel, filesystem, hdparms, ...

I don't think that John the ripper depends on KDE for its performances.

If you happen to use a heavy desktop that steals X % cpu, it will show in any cpu-using bench. Not even mentioning the horrible trackers and indexers.

[babali]

Well, the install docs are really small.

[FireBurn]

Sounds like it's turning into Gentoo - without the advantages

[Yoshi]

@TheCycoONE
I understand that but the new method is even more complicated, I would say. So maybe the get the complete opposite of what they wanted to achieve. Personally, i'll try out the new method and will see how far i can get with the wiki etc. With AIF i didn't need to look in the wiki at all. So yeah, for me it's a step backwards. But I'm sure i'll learn a lot while trying it out to get it up and running.

[TheCycoONE]

Dropping AIF makes it even harder for "beginners" to get Arch up and running...

I've gotten the impression that they don't want any more users who can't read a wiki and transcribe commands to bash.

[babali]

Not every benchs depends on your desktop...

If you run disk IO benchs, or httpd benchs, then it depends on your kernel, filesystem, hdparms, ...

I don't think that John the ripper depends on KDE for its performances.

[markg85]

Finally!

Just a few days ago i had to reinstall a machine where i've used the - then latest - arch net install. Bunch of updates, small other changes. Yeah, a new installation iso was really needed.

[nightmarex]

I use Arch but I doubt his tests would differ because he would set up his Arch install like a Ubuntu box for fairness. Not to mention that setup isn't likely to be the same as your Arch. Example here's mine....

uname -a
Linux (censored) 3.3.6-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun May 13 10:52:32 CEST 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Notables...

LXDE (openbox), flgrx 12.6, alsa, xorg-server 1.11.4-2

Doubt he would test it like this ^ lol.

Yeah I don't update everything every notch so what? =p runs good this way.

[Yoshi]

Dropping AIF makes it even harder for "beginners" to get Arch up and running...

[ninez]

I use Archlinux, but i actually see little point in benchmarking it against Fedora / Ubuntu - i personally don't think the numbers would be that interesting, as they weren't very interesting in the past;

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_arch_faster&num=1

essentially, every Archlinux install is different anyway, since the user starts with a bare / core system and builds what they like from there. So unless the user has gone through with ABS and rebuilt the entire system with all sorts of (proper) optimizations, as well as other customizations - i highly doubt we'd see any big differences, if at all.

there may be newer versions of software (that are improved) that may give Archlinux a lead in the odd spot, but then again, it's also possible there may be regressions.

Either way, it would be difficult to put any stock in Archlinux benchmarks because of the nature of the distribution; bleeding-edge, do-it-yourself, no 'standard' Archlinux setup, etc.