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Pretty smooth so far, except that gnome-shell seems to happily eat CPU cycles in proportion to the rate of pixels being updated on the screen (a large glxgears window running at 60fps is enough to make it try to eat a whole core, while glxgears itself is under 1%). I assume the compositor is hitting a fallback (default radeon/gallium driver with RV620), but it's annoying either way.
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Originally posted by liam View PostNow, have you heard of the GS extensions? Assuming you have look at this http://intgat.tigress.co.uk/rmy/extensions/index.html. It reimplements launchers, classic menu and more but using gnome 3 tech.
good luck!
$ yum search gnome-shell-extensions
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Originally posted by bwat47 View PostI actually don't dislike unity, but think its still very unpolished and immature. I find Gnome shell to be very fast and polished.
I wasn't a big fan of Gnome Shell at first but after trialing many of the Fedora test days for Gnome 3 I've grown to really like it. Sure it has some quirks. Personally I think the workspace switcher is ugly.
After learning some of the shortcuts (and there are many, google around) it's quite nice and I much prefer it over 2.x
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Originally posted by chrisr View PostBooting to the "upgrade" kernel results in a frozen system where the last line on dmesg is
Trying to unpack rootfs image as initramfs...
This upgrade was created by running preupgrade on a fully updated F14 system. So it looks like the new initramfs is defective, but at least the F14 system is still OK.
This new Fedora version looks nice. As I've said before, I'm really enjoying the new desktop paradigms that are emerging (Unity and Gnome Shell). They are bringing a sense of freshness and inovation to the linux world, but I know lots of people who value stability aren't happy at all with the change. You loose some, you win some. It's impossible to please everybody.
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Originally posted by hubick View PostThis is my first exposure to Gnome 3.
I was pissed off enough back when they tried the whole "spatial" thing a few years back, but this, this takes the cake.
I need to spend some more time to see if I'm missing something (I don't think I am), but after 20 minutes, I can't stand it!
It seems like it takes between two and three times as many interactions (motions/clicks) to do pretty much everything! Launching apps, switching apps, switching desktops, this all takes longer. And WHY? How does a piece of software doubling the time required to complete the main activities it's responsible for not count as complete FAIL? Do I really have to move all the way top left and then all the way right to switch desktops? How is having one screen with a mountain of app icons all lumped together possibly better than organized in menus??
I switched to the fallback mode, installed and used the tweak tool to bring back the Nautilus desktop, but I still can't arrange my panels. I have years (Linux since 1993) of muscle memory I don't /want/ to overcome. I /was/ relatively happy with my desktop, but they couldn't just leave it alone. I think I might have to switch to KDE (now that QT is LGPL and KDE isn't evil, I would at least consider it).
I don't think I'm gonna be alone here. Let the rebellion begin! I think this will be the start of a Gnome death spiral.
I think Gnome will get better, but on the other hand I think the changes in Gnome 3 are more radical than KDE 4.0
KDE 4.0 was buggy and lacked a lot of the configuration options from 3.5, but it was still a fairly similar desktop experience. They still had a panel with a menu to launch applications. Gnome Shell is an entirely different way of navigating the desktop.
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Originally posted by d2kx View PostTry Ubuntu/Unity. Unity is actually improving the user experience, unless the mess that is GNOME Shell.
I actually don't dislike unity, but think its still very unpolished and immature. I find Gnome shell to be very fast and polished.
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The upgrade isn't even working here.
Originally posted by phoronix View PostPhoronix: Fedora 15 Lovelock Has Been Released
http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=OTQ3OA
Trying to unpack rootfs image as initramfs...
This upgrade was created by running preupgrade on a fully updated F14 system. So it looks like the new initramfs is defective, but at least the F14 system is still OK.Last edited by chrisr; 24 May 2011, 04:04 PM.
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Originally posted by hubick View PostThis is my first exposure to Gnome 3.
I was pissed off enough back when they tried the whole "spatial" thing a few years back, but this, this takes the cake.
I need to spend some more time to see if I'm missing something (I don't think I am), but after 20 minutes, I can't stand it!
It seems like it takes between two and three times as many interactions (motions/clicks) to do pretty much everything! Launching apps, switching apps, switching desktops, this all takes longer. And WHY? How does a piece of software doubling the time required to complete the main activities it's responsible for not count as complete FAIL? Do I really have to move all the way top left and then all the way right to switch desktops? How is having one screen with a mountain of app icons all lumped together possibly better than organized in menus??
I switched to the fallback mode, installed and used the tweak tool to bring back the Nautilus desktop, but I still can't arrange my panels. I have years (Linux since 1993) of muscle memory I don't /want/ to overcome. I /was/ relatively happy with my desktop, but they couldn't just leave it alone. I think I might have to switch to KDE (now that QT is LGPL and KDE isn't evil, I would at least consider it).
I don't think I'm gonna be alone here. Let the rebellion begin! I think this will be the start of a Gnome death spiral.
Now, have you heard of the GS extensions? Assuming you have look at this http://intgat.tigress.co.uk/rmy/extensions/index.html. It reimplements launchers, classic menu and more but using gnome 3 tech.
good luck!
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Looking Bright
Man, GNOME 3, systemd, btrfs... it's like the future, but now. Fedora 15 and the sunny weather outside are making this season a happy one.
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