Ubuntu Looks To An SDK, Improved App Development

[pingufunkybeat]

I'll never understand what people see in Visual Studio.

[yogi_berra]

We need a Visual Studio alternative for Linux.

Good luck with that. Most people will just point you to Eclipse, Code::blocks, or Qt Creator then return to their Vim or Emacs without bothering to notice that none of the free solutions come close to the functionality of Visual Studio.

[Dewitt501]

Uh huh. That extra second you spend launching the app obviously matters so much.

[ElderSnake]

It is a rather shocking development driven by the fact that some companies like Canonical discovered the potential of exploiting the many years of hard work of Linux enthusiasts to make a lot of money from it.
Canonical does not, in any way, contribute to the GNU/Linux-morality. It may focus on an easy-to-use operating system, but on the way, they leave free software behind and don't let other Linux distributions benefit from their strive.
But to be honest, I really do not care about Unity. I actually hate it and it was a reason for me to switch to Gentoo (over Debian).
We have to let the users decide, even though it might bring up Ubuntu as the winner for being the best walled garden.

Yeah I don't really care too much about Unity either, but it was one of the more recent examples I could think of, of how they are doing things. I prefer being closer to upstream/source.

Of course people could argue that their patches and work are necessary to make the software work better. But personally I've always found pure standalone Compiz to be much faster and more stable than the Unity/Ubuntu variant.

[frign]

This is another reason why I'm so glad for Arch. It's becoming increasingly, and amazingly, popular and it does it all under it's own steam.

Whilst things like an SDK do benefit Ubuntu I do actually increasingly feel Canonical are trying to exclude others. Due to some great work, for example, some clever guys have Unity running in Arch and maintain repos for it but it was not easy for them; they had to deal with every Ubuntu-introduced hack and patch under the sun, to the point where you need to build/install Ubuntu-patched variants of packages like even Xorg components D: It's just crazy.

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It is a rather shocking development driven by the fact that some companies like Canonical discovered the potential of exploiting the many years of hard work of Linux enthusiasts to make a lot of money from it.
Canonical does not, in any way, contribute to the GNU/Linux-morality. It may focus on an easy-to-use operating system, but on the way, they leave free software behind and don't let other Linux distributions benefit from their strive.
But to be honest, I really do not care about Unity. I actually hate it and it was a reason for me to switch to Gentoo (over Debian).
We have to let the users decide, even though it might bring up Ubuntu as the winner for being the best walled garden.

[ElderSnake]

This is another reason why I'm so glad for Arch. It's becoming increasingly, and amazingly, popular and it does it all under it's own steam.

Whilst things like an SDK do benefit Ubuntu I do actually increasingly feel Canonical are trying to exclude others. Due to some great work, for example, some clever guys have Unity running in Arch and maintain repos for it but it was not easy for them; they had to deal with every Ubuntu-introduced hack and patch under the sun, to the point where you need to build/install Ubuntu-patched variants of packages like even Xorg components D: It's just crazy.

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[deanjo]

This. To put it simply, there is no reason to make the SDK Ubuntu-specific. They should just make sure that it's modular, and one module is for Ubuntu integration. Then other distros could write their own to integrate into their distros. Then instead of one distribution winning, the whole system wins.

When has Canonical ever done something for the linux community as a whole? They like operating in their own little world with little regard to the linux community or the projects they draw from.

[GreatEmerald]

No, and I don't think that they are "evil" in the sense SCO was, or that they are bad guys. But this isolationist course is quite annoying.

This. To put it simply, there is no reason to make the SDK Ubuntu-specific. They should just make sure that it's modular, and one module is for Ubuntu integration. Then other distros could write their own to integrate into their distros. Then instead of one distribution winning, the whole system wins.

[pingufunkybeat]

Are you suggesting that the sole or fundamental purpose in Canonical providing an SDK for Ubuntu is to exclude others?

No, and I don't think that they are "evil" in the sense SCO was, or that they are bad guys. But this isolationist course is quite annoying.

[bwat47]

Uh huh. That extra second you spend launching the app obviously matters so much.

the Ubuntu software center is horrifically slow in real-world usage.