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Originally posted by frign View PostDid you even read what I said? My point was that we should develop towards more efficient DE's and _not_ towards more demanding ones, even though computers might develop on.
To make it even clearer, we don't drive cars intentionally more than we would, because we are focused on efficiently using the ressources we are given. Everything beyond that is waste.
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Originally posted by Akka View PostThe thing with Eclipse and netbeans etc is that many windows and mac developer allready use them. Few learn a ubuntu specific (or linux specifik but as we speak about a Ubuntu specifik SDK...) IDE if you allready use Eclipse. If your work is development the cost for a decent computer that run Eclipse with decent speed is nothing.
To make it even clearer, we don't drive cars intentionally more than we would, because we are focused on efficiently using the ressources we are given. Everything beyond that is waste.
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Kdevelop is a good IDE if you use c++ or c. The code processing is excellent and fairly intelligent and it decent light. The only IDE i have got to parse most of the kernel code with decent performance on my 6 years old hp nx 7400 laptop.
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Originally posted by yogi_berra View PostGood luck with that. Most people will just point you to Eclipse, Code::blocks, or Qt Creator then return to their Vim or Emacs without bothering to notice that none of the free solutions come close to the functionality of Visual Studio.
I don't see why everyone makes a big deal about visual studio, IMO it isn't that great of an IDE.
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Originally posted by frign View PostThese are not non-issues, it is just a lesser evil. You should not tend to go crazy and take direct advantage of improved computer-performance, as these grown ressources should rather benefit actual computation instead of getting cut in the interest of a bloated DE like Eclipse.Last edited by Akka; 31 October 2012, 03:35 PM.
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Originally posted by mirza View PostIDE part is easy, just use Eclipse! I found latest iterations to be great. Today, in time where almost every developer can afford i7 and 16GB RAM, major shortcomings of Eclipse (startup time and memory usage) are non-issues.
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IDE part is easy, just use Eclipse! I found latest iterations to be great. Today, in time where almost every developer can afford i7 and 16GB RAM, major shortcomings of Eclipse (startup time and memory usage) are non-issues. Android plugin for Eclipse is great, you can do create whole app with it, including GUI, packaging and publishing. What I see as a major problem is language. C/C++ is IMHO too low level for app development of current times (2012), Python would need really good hotspot VM, and I don't think Canonical has resources for that. I would go with Java with some great Linux/GTK integration, which is basically what Android did with Dalvik, if you think about it. Of course, in case of Java, they would need agreement with Oracle, that cover everything and everybody until eternity.
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Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View PostI'll never understand what people see in Visual Studio.
Build errors? Right click on the output message -> go to location
Where is a Function defined? Right click on the function -> go to definition
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Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View PostI'll never understand what people see in Visual Studio.
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