People who think GNOME 3 is ugly should go look at Afterstep.
I'm just waiting for Xfce 4.14 and a GTK3 theme "engine" there, at this point.
Part of KDE Plasma -- the panels, I think? -- have heavy graphical corruption in the last version of VirtualBox I tested it in, GNOME is awkward, I got tired of wiring together an Openbox desktop, and I haven't looked into LXQt, Enlightenment, Cinnamon, Lumina, or FVWM-Crystal lately. Or Budgie, ever. So that leaves my old friend, Xfce.
MATE seemed utterly identical to Cinnamon and its parent GNOME 2, last I compared them, and seems to occupy the same space as Xfce, "stealing" ("co-opting", or whatever) devs who might otherwise contribute to the pre-existing system.
On that note: We have faaaaar too many options, folks. There isn't even the excuse of scratching an itch anymore -- several of these options are virtually identical in surface functionality, purpose, or even the low-level technologies. We DO NOT need another new environment, I don't care how much of a hotshot programmer you are or what your "special case" is -- there's already several somethings in your niche.
Contribute patches for more flexibility or well-designed features in an existing one, with test coverage and documentation. Go make a proper, industrial-quality CAD program or something, we have maybe ONE of those. Or patch Easytag to have a dialog for custom tags. Port the timezone and format validator code for xfce-panel's default Clock back to the 4.12 branch and get it in Debian 9 as a fix for that longstanding bug. Go somehow pull Mozilla's PR's head out of their behinds, so they stop pushing ads ("rewards" you have to pay for) on us and telling us it's raining.
Just stop clogging the repos with Yet Another C/C++ Thing To Test, Package, Build, and Debug. Or worse, more single-thread Python!
And if it's just too much fun to build something new and slap it on your resumé: develop some discipline and show you can work in an existing team, instead.
The bazaar has reached, and exceeded, Choice Paralysis levels. Now nobody is able to buy critically.
/rant
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Each time better and polished, as ever. Don't know how people can use KDE, XFCE or any other unpolished alternative. Budgie is also nice.
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Originally posted by hax0r View PostBecause gnome-shell is a very poorly designed single threaded javascript infested bloatware with horrendous latency large memory footprint and half assed broken non-standardized theme CSS with API breakages every release. There's no point of forking, instead it needs to be redesigned and reengineered by competent developer who is aware of basic DE/WM concepts that it should be modularized, run as high priority process, with very low latency even under background load, should have low overhead and be written in C/C++, research what Solus's Budgie WM did. Stinky GNOME foot and poo brown icons should have gone away ages ago, people calling it beautiful is beyond my comprehension,
But I do think that it needs a rewrite or major changes, parts of it should be re-written using GTK as a separate process (e.g. gnome-panel). It's completely bonkers using it for Wayland right now due to lack of session recovery.
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Originally posted by ElectricPrism View PostWhy hasn't someone forked Gnome 3 and included all the extensions that make sense by default yet?
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Originally posted by arokh View Post
Sure, people have different preferences. Most people like GNOME which is why the largest distributions have chosen it. Your opinion is in the 0,5% that doesn't like GNOME, congratulations.
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Originally posted by ElectricPrism View PostWhy hasn't someone forked Gnome 3 and included all the extensions that make sense by default yet?Last edited by deant; 24 January 2019, 07:03 AM.
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Why hasn't someone forked Gnome 3 and included all the extensions that make sense by default yet?
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"It's also about modernizing the icons so they more akin to the likes of other platforms where they are more simple and flat these days rather than being very detailed as was popular in the past."
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Originally posted by arokh View PostSure, people have different preferences. Most people like GNOME which is why the largest distributions have chosen it.
If GNOME works for you then that's great. I personally can't stand it and I can't stand GNOME developers either. Going around to projects like Transmission and demanding that they remove support for features like a tray icon because "it's not the GNOME way" shows arrogance and stupidity beyond belief.
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So let me get this straight: We have monitors with resolutions that are skyrocketing and GPU power increasing to match, even in the mobile space, and to take advantage of that we go with icons that are simpler, flatter, overall less detailed and not looking out of place on Windows 95.
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