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Originally posted by XorEaxEax View PostThe source for IOS 4.3 webkit wasn't released AT ALL until they go lots of complaints, can you fucking read?One trick about the GPL is that it *DOES* allow for delays, as long as they are 'reasonable'. The GPL also doesn't require that the code be available to absolutely everyone on the internet. They could make you request it on CD, and ship the CD at cost. (Yes, then the person who requested the CD could then post it on the internet - but there is no requirement in the GPL stating that Apple has to do it.)
And as Red Hat has shown, you can even restrict distribution to customers that paid you. Yes, THOSE customers can then redistribute freely, but the originating organization is under no requirement to make the source available to everyone who asks.Late last week, Daring Fireball's John Gruber helped draw some attention to that fact that Apple had yet to release the source code for...
GPL can be understood in different ways.
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Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View PostThe code is there for everybody to use however the hell they want. That is the opposite of selfish.
The only restriction is on redistribution, and it means that you can't take what isn't yours and restrict your users the rights they originally had. That is also the opposite of selfish.
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Originally posted by Awesomeness View PostSeriously: You are talking bullsh*t all the time.
Originally posted by Awesomeness View PostBullshit. Did http://webkit.org suddenly disappear? No. It was just bitching that it wasn't available from http://www.opensource.apple.com/
Big deal?
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Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View PostI believe that all of Linux DRM + drivers are MIT licensed. BSDs could port that code if they wanted to. But nobody does.
<rhetorical>Is it not possible for GPL fans and BSD fans to discuss a compiler change without descending into licensing wars?</rhetorical>
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Originally posted by XorEaxEax View PostEven if that was the case what difference does it make? If anything it shows that Apple really want to be able to keep their enhancements proprietary.
Originally posted by XorEaxEax View Post
Big deal?
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Originally posted by LightBit View PostLinux is selfish too. They take BSD's code and don't give it back. And many Linux distributions are violating GPL, with closed source modules.
GPL is not so free. Copyleft per file would be better.
GPL is more selfish than any corporation.
The only restriction is on redistribution, and it means that you can't take what isn't yours and restrict your users the rights they originally had. That is also the opposite of selfish.
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Originally posted by XorEaxEax View PostIn my opinion the reason is that GPL ensures a level playing field for all participants in the kernel development, no one is allowed to keep their enhancements closed if they want to distribute anything with those enhancements. For a company to release some enhancement back which a competitor can snatch up while not returning the favor like with BSD will make little sense in the boardroom. Meanwhile with GPL everyone is bound by the licence to play fair. Certainly in a perfect world this would not be necessary and companies would just contribute back because it's the right thing to do and there would be no holding out, but in the world we live in I think that for collaborative development GPL makes perfect sense, even more so for companies which are generally the equivalent of an extremely selfish person.
GPL is not so free. Copyleft per file would be better.
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