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Originally posted by eydee View Post
Or even half the *Ridge CPUs being Zen, while the other half being crappy bulldozer.
And on the other hand, IF BD got a 14nm redesign and they added a third integer unit per pipeline There is no doubt at all in my mind it would annihilate Zen. It's just that BD was crippled with only 2 integer units and then never got past 32nm, and never got a better cache hierarchy. No doubt it's the better architecture though, for sure.
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Originally posted by duby229 View Post
I don't really care too much about rebranding anymore, it's just not that big a deal. Last generations top end could very well be this generations mid end. I just don't see a problem with that. If the dies are still available, then they still need to be sold, and rebranding is one way to make that doable.
And on the other hand, IF BD got a 14nm redesign and they added a third integer unit per pipeline There is no doubt at all in my mind it would annihilate Zen. It's just that BD was crippled with only 2 integer units and then never got past 32nm, and never got a better cache hierarchy. No doubt it's the better architecture though, for sure.
Intel's no saint, but let's keep it together, shall we?
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Originally posted by bug77 View Post
I don't have much of a problem with rebranding (still, why do it instead of using the old names?). What I have a problem with, is mixing various generation under the same moniker in an obvious attempt to confuse the consumer and sell them inferior products. AMD has done that for years and people here gave them a pass because they were working on open source Linux drivers. Intel does it now and gets burnt to the stake.
Intel's no saint, but let's keep it together, shall we?
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Originally posted by duby229 View Post
I'm not burning them for it, It's just not that big a deal. And I'm sure the reason they rename the rebranded product is so that the naming conventions align with the current gen. Maybe last gen it was a top end product and this gen it is a mid end product, then you need to update the naming conventions accordingly. It's so that people buying them -aren't- confused.
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Originally posted by bug77 View Post
It would have been much more honest to call these i5-7770U or something. But they don't want to appear like they adding to last year's lineup (which they are).
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Originally posted by polarathene View Post
IIRC it was originally Cannon Lake, no idea when it got switched to Coffee Lake, both sound cool to me.
Cannonlake should still be out someday, but maybe they'll decide to do another couple of Skylake refreshes before then.
Skylake is gonna be SO FRESH by the time they're done with it.
I've been pissed at AMD recently for delaying and then insultingly downplaying the GCC issue in Ryzen, said I'd go Coffee Lake but I didn't realize the "real Coffee Lake" would be a while... This mobile "Coffee Lake" is like... McCafe coffee or something.
I'm not really happy with either company so I guess I'll just delay my upgrade. Don't really want to give either company my money right now.Last edited by Holograph; 21 August 2017, 10:23 AM.
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Originally posted by duby229 View Post
I mean, maybe? If it was me making the decision, I'd still rather get the refresh. You know they must've addressed some errata and design issues. In my opinion it's still worthy of a proper naming convention that reflects it's position in this years lineup.
*Minor fab improvements may not be even worth differentiating. For example, video cards routinely change capacitors or VRAM during their lifecycle, but they don't get released under a new name because of that. But let's just say the line is blurred about what deserves differentiation and what doesn't and leave it at that.
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