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Originally posted by bug77 View PostLet the "will my phone get Nougat" games begin!
Nexus 5 is officially left out in the cold indeed. But this is not entirely Google's fault, it's the closed nature of the hardware they use. When the maker of the SoC (or whatever other chip you may have on board) doesn't want to update their drivers, there's not a damn thing Google, Samsung, HTC, LG, Sony or anyone else can do about it. That's (part of the reason) why Apple prefers to keep everything in house and why I won't touch a Mediatek equipped phone. It's also why I could never make sense of people's enthusiasm over Cyanogenmod.
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Originally posted by Jumbotron View PostYeah....about those Nvidia Shield devices. Nvidia has officially dropped production of the Shield tablet and there are rumors that the Shield TV is not going to see a new model on the future. The market has whole heartily rejected Nvidia's ARM products. They are out of phones....they are out of tablets, they are hardly in ChromeOS laptops and as I said before they may not come out with a new a Shield TV. You get GREAT support from Nvidia as long as they continue to make products. Which increasingly they are not.
Originally posted by Cerberus View Post
A giant like Google cant pay a SoC manufacturer for new drivers? I totally do not buy that. It is not like they would refuse good money for some new drivers, nobody refuses good money, it is all about planned obsoleteness to make people buy new phones. Every company does it, you want the latest software? Buy a new phone.
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Originally posted by Jumbotron View PostYeah....about those Nvidia Shield devices. Nvidia has officially dropped production of the Shield tablet and there are rumors that the Shield TV is not going to see a new model on the future. The market has whole heartily rejected Nvidia's ARM products. They are out of phones....they are out of tablets, they are hardly in ChromeOS laptops and as I said before they may not come out with a new a Shield TV. You get GREAT support from Nvidia as long as they continue to make products. Which increasingly they are not.
The Shield tablet 2 has been cancelled and will NOT be sold but the K1 is still on the market and supported, so where is the lack of support?
As you may know it is possible that this Shield tablet 2 will be powering the Nintendo NX, so that NVidia prefer associate with Nintendo and merge game libraries than compete.
So what is your problem? That NVidia tried to get in the ARM market, already owned by Qualcomm and others, that makes them the ugly bad guys? I do not get it...
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Originally posted by Cerberus View Post
Precisely the reason why I recently acquired an iPhone instead of Android, you can say what you want about Apple but they update their devices as long as possible, I believe iPhone 4S got iOS 9.3, now that is some serious commitment to updating everything you can. Android devices get dumped fast, especially the low and midrange devices, but even premium phones usually get dumped after 2 years, and even when you get the update you wait for months to get it, for me phones tend to be long term investment and I am not planning to waste good money on a phone that will become "old" in 2 years and wont get any more updates. Plus used iPhones fetch much better prices than Androids, in the case I decide to sell it for any reason. I owned several Androids in the past and was frustrated how quickly they got dumped when it comes to updates.
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I don't really care that my Nexus 5 won't get any official update. I mean, who are we kidding? We never get actual kernel update to begin with (i.e. if your phone came with kernel 3.0, you're stuck with that branch). Plus, my proximity sensor has completely stopped working since Marshmallow (one of these days, before flashing to a newer ROM, I'll flash to Lollipop, or, better yet, Kitkat to check whether the issue is hardware or software related).
As I have an N7000 that's running Lollipop (and even Marshmallow is available), I'm confident I'll be able to keep my Nexus for a few more years.
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Originally posted by wdb974 View PostI don't really care that my Nexus 5 won't get any official update. I mean, who are we kidding? We never get actual kernel update to begin with (i.e. if your phone came with kernel 3.0, you're stuck with that branch). Plus, my proximity sensor has completely stopped working since Marshmallow (one of these days, before flashing to a newer ROM, I'll flash to Lollipop, or, better yet, Kitkat to check whether the issue is hardware or software related).
As I have an N7000 that's running Lollipop (and even Marshmallow is available), I'm confident I'll be able to keep my Nexus for a few more years.
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- Nexus 5X: September 2017
- Nexus 6P: September 2017
- Nexus 9: October 2016
- Nexus 5: October 2015
- Nexus 6: October 2016
- Nexus 7 (2013): July 2015
- Nexus 10: November 2014
Security updates are provided for three years from release or 18 months from when they leave the Google Store, whichever is longer.
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Originally posted by Deavir View Post- Nexus 5X: September 2017
- Nexus 6P: September 2017
- Nexus 9: October 2016
- Nexus 5: October 2015
- Nexus 6: October 2016
- Nexus 7 (2013): July 2015
- Nexus 10: November 2014
Dates above are for OS upgrades.
Security updates are provided for three years from release or 18 months from when they leave the Google Store, whichever is longer.
I know, silly me...
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Originally posted by bug77 View Post
Fair enough. But the above has planned obsolescence written all over it, while the way I suggested implies support for as long as there's interest in the device.
I know, silly me...
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