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Originally posted by qarium View Post
last time someone lost the chip war was in 1980 the UDSSR lost the chip war.
Rather RISC CPU like MIPS, SunSPARC, DEC Alpha, PowerPC lost with Intel Pentium.
And AMD lost GPU battle with Nvidia.
intel clearly lost the chip war.
For the time being, the winning company is Nvida, which has about 96% share of the high-performance GPU market and has profits from its DataCenter division 20 times greater than AMD's - reflecting market capitalization.
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Originally posted by HEL88 View PostAnd AMD lost GPU battle with Nvidia.
In terms of HPC, MI250X significantly outperformed the A100 (its contemporary) on fp64, although the H100 retook the lead there. Then, the MI300X took back the overall lead from the H100! AMD is definitely on the right track.
Originally posted by HEL88 View PostYou can look at it this way: this is Intel's first approach to high-performance GPUs. The GPU war for Intel is just beginning. The results will be known in 10-15 years.
Now, if you want to talk GPUs, Ponte Vecchio was insanely over-ambitious in the way it used tiles and die-stacking. They really scored an own-goal, with that one. Being their first HPC GPU really isn't a valid excuse, either, for a company with such deep expertise in building chips. Not to mention that Xeon Phi was designed to play in that same market segment.
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Originally posted by sophisticles View PostDoes anyone else see the irony of the Department of Energy "sponsoring" i.e. paying 500 million dollars for a supercomputer that uses 38.7MW?
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Originally posted by coder View Post
Analysts Estimate Nvidia Owns 98% of the Data Center GPU Market | Extremetech
AMD has been in the GPU market forever. And how much of the data center market do they have? How much does Nvidia have? AMD has been crushed in this battle.
AMD is closer to Intel in this segment. To Intel, which is just starting to enter this market.
AMD and Intel have made similar money in the DataCenter segment. Meanwhile, Nvidia earned 20 (!!!) times more in this segment.
The biggest loser is AMD. Because, as I mentioned, this company has been in the GPU market forever, and its share is embarrassingly low.
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Originally posted by HEL88 View PostAnalysts Estimate Nvidia Owns 98% of the Data Center GPU Market | Extremetech
AMD has been in the GPU market forever. And how much of the data center market do they have? How much does Nvidia have? AMD has been crushed in this battle.
Again, I point to the fact that AMD had recent wins as evidence that Nvidia isn't completely beyond their reach.
Originally posted by HEL88 View PostMeanwhile, Nvidia earned 20 (!!!) times more in this segment.
Originally posted by HEL88 View PostThe biggest loser is AMD. Because, as I mentioned, this company has been in the GPU market forever, and its share is embarrassingly low.
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Originally posted by coder View PostThese things can change.
intel clearly lost the chip war.... the last time someone lost the chip war was in 1980 the UDSSR lost the chip war.
And just started to enter the GPU market. And it has practically the same position in Data Center GPU as AMD, which has been in this market from the very beginning .
The only loser is AMD in Data Center GPU, because it has practically zero share.
That doesn't mean their hardware is 20x better!
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Originally posted by Blademasterz View PostWhat's the benefit of these super computers? Show off?- inaccurate weather forecast
- mass surveillance of innocent citizens
- cracking encryption
- less atomic bomb tests in your neighborhood
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Originally posted by coder View PostThe same could be said for AMD in the CPU market, until the last couple generations. These things can change. It just so happens that it's harder for AMD to take and hold the lead on GPUs, because Nvidia is a much fiercer competitor than Intel's CPUs have generally been.
Competing effectively in the GPU powered HPC and AI markets would be in direct conflict with their obvious strategy of competing in those markets with more CPU cores.
AMD, under Lisa Su, made the decision that the path to riches and dominance was "more cores" and they have been doggedly pursuing that goal since.
Intel has not been able to compete on the "more cores" front and so decided to attack the GPU segment.
NVIDIA years ago wanted to compete in the x86 CPU market but Intel managed to stop them by giving them 1.5 billion dollars.
NVIDIA took that money and created the GPGPU market with CUDA and 1.5 billion dollars buys you lots of advancement.
Now that NVIDIA is going to be entering the desktop and server CPU markets, eventually, maybe in a decade, what I think will happen is NVIDIA will try to kill the discrete GPU market by producing hybrid CPU/GPU chips that blur the lines between what we have now and will be more lucrative thanks to simplified production pipelines and more appealing to programmers due to simpler leveraging of GPU capabilities.
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