Microsoft Announces... Windows 10 With A Start Menu

[prodigy_]

it gave me a lot of money from the guys who brought me their computers to ditch it with XP or 7 later

Now that's a sad statement in the context of a FOSS site. Sad but true, of course. Even when people encounter a really crappy version of Windows pre-installed on their computer they don't realize Microsoft makes them pay for the dubious privilege of beta-testing half-baked ideas. They don't start looking for a different, better OS. They just want another dose of Windoze.

/sigh

[Apopas]

Maybe, but the world is changing. Back in 2006 was difficult to find someone who didn't have a problem to ditch windows (even Vista) for Linux. With windows 8 is much easier. More than half of the puters I convert are with Linux and the rest with windows 7.
Ofcourse helps the fact that I don't charge for Linux while for windows I ask 50 euros

[Apopas]

Only the previous month I "converted" two girls to Linux Mint Cinnamon (one of them had a black desktop windows 7 which asked for activation), two guys with older laptops to Mint XFCE, one guy to dual boot 8/Mint but soon he will bring me his laptop to free his disk from the eights and just one guy from 8 to 7 but I asked from him only 30 euros because he was poor and these euros are gonna become a donation to Linux Mint. So even with windows 7 he made a small favour to the OSS world

[Rallos Zek]

Windows 10 is still a big fail. Microsoft needs to ditch that ugly preschool interface they call Metro and bring back Aero.

[Guest]

Been using 10 (TP) since a few hours after it came out; I have no idea what the big deal is with the Start Menu... Takes me longer to navigate to what I want with it, than a customized Start Screen.

This is what I work with:


If I want to open a certain application, I know exactly where to go for it. With a Start Menu, I scroll through a list to find what I want, or use the Search box (which also exists with the Start Screen).

Also note, I use a keyboard and mouse. And yes, I find the Start Screen fully operable.

So, what do people see in the Start Menu honestly? I'm hoping it's more than the mentality of "Start Screen is touchscreen-only and is therefore harder with a K/M"...

[Apopas]

UGLY!

[kpedersen]

UGLY!

Haha yeah, and because noone really uses "metro apps", no-one has them on the start screen. So instead we have these large coloured boxes, with small little icons in them looking buggy and legacy.

I find that the Windows 8 / 10 shell is admittedly still much more usable than FOSS desktops today but I think the pinnacle was reached in Windows 2000 and it is kinda regressing from there.

[Guest]

Haha yeah, and because noone really uses "metro apps", no-one has them on the start screen. So instead we have these large coloured boxes, with small little icons in them looking buggy and legacy.

I prefer function over aesthetics; but I do agree some work could be done to make the Start Screen look... better. To be fair though, I spend very little of my computer usage on the Start Screen; once I launch a program, my attention goes to that program. Function-wise, I feel it's fine for the most part.

[Apopas]

I find that the Windows 8 / 10 shell is admittedly still much more usable than FOSS desktops today but I think the pinnacle was reached in Windows 2000 and it is kinda regressing from there.

Hmmm I tend to disagree. Usability for me means a lot more than this collection of ugly squares. If they were usable, the users wouldn't bring me their laptops to ditch em for windows 7 or Linux Mint. I don't even try to compare them with FOSS desktops. They are just not usable (the windows) alone.

[Apopas]

I prefer function over aesthetics;

And because you prefer function you chose windows 10? And before that you had windows 8?