New Group Calls For Boycotting Systemd

[interested]

Thats because we silently and smugly know that systemd is going to be gone within a year or so. We just don't want to see people waste their time with it until then

So you are taking refuge in daydreaming and fantasies? Well, that is one way to deal with hard problems.

Systemd is great. FreeBSD has never had so many new users

As long as they don't complain about having problems using Linux software, made by Linux developers and paid for by Linux money, I wish them the best luck. Getting rid of all the techno-reactionaries will help Linux move forward. Remember, the next step for Linux is replacing X.org with Wayland, another no go for those stuck in the past.

[sdack]

Yes, I am curious to know ...

Well, then start at page 1. The reasons were given multiple times already.

[sdack]

This is the problem with these systemd haters. They yell very loud "systemd sucks and will suck us all into blackhole!!!!1". When you ask them what you are going to do about it or what's your solution. They usually don't have any constructive to say.

You are thinking, because it was given to all of us for free should we be grateful for it. If that was in any way logical then Windows users should be grateful for every worm and virus they get. And everyone reading your comments should be grateful to have read them.

[finalzone]

You are thinking, because it was given to all of us for free should we be grateful for it. If that was in any way logical then Windows users should be grateful for every worm and virus they get. And everyone reading your comments should be grateful to have read them.

Reading your posts only point that you often change the topics when facing real questions and dodge them. It would be wise to be quiet than rather look like a fool.

[interested]

Well, then start at page 1. The reasons were given multiple times already.

I have read every post in this thread, and I haven't seen single post about what old problems may come back to Linux when dropping SysVinit. But one could probably write a small book about the many advantages systemd gives Linux over SysVinit.

As I said; every certified Unix have dropped SysVinit, most major Linux distros like Red Hat /Fedora /CentOS, Ubuntu, SuSE etc, have used Upstart for years instead of SysVinit etc. Neither Gentoo nor Slackware use SysVinit. If there had been any substantial problems with dropping SysVinit, it would have been widely know for years.

SysVinit seems dead as a dodo on all Linux distros at the moment, and practically no one outside Linux is using SysVinit either. Red Hat /SuSE have been the actual SysVinit upstream for a long time, but they will shut down their legacy SysVinit support in the future.

The GNU SysVinit development is in a sorry state too, as one of their developers laconically noted, that the only way to test new SysVinit code was to boot the system with it. (no test suite).

[psychoticmeow]

You are thinking, because it was given to all of us for free should we be grateful for it. If that was in any way logical then Windows users should be grateful for every worm and virus they get. And everyone reading your comments should be grateful to have read them.

Nobody thinks "because it's free it must be great", you're just trying to frame people who disagree with you as idiots. In other words, nice strawman and attempted ad hominem argument.

[sdack]

Nobody thinks "because it's free it must be great", you're just trying to frame people who disagree with you as idiots. In other words, nice strawman and attempted ad hominem argument.

No. People should give criticsm. Some only cannot appreciate it. Whose fault is this?

[psychoticmeow]

No. People should give criticsm. Some only cannot appreciate it. Whose fault is this?

What does this have to do with the dumb thing you just said moments ago?

[Luke_Wolf]

[sdack]

What does this have to do with the dumb thing you just said moments ago?

If you truly believed there was not anything wrong with systemd then you would be thanking RedHat for it and live happily ever after. Instead are you looking at the people who give criticsm and want to critise them back as if you did not know what was going on.

Who even cares what you think? You did not write the software, which means you are not responsible for it and you are clearly happy with it. Why are then struggeling so hard at it?

At the end of the day is there no law against criticsing a piece of software and to protest against it, and there is no law that says you have to understand it.