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What Linux Distribution Should Be Benchmarked The Most?
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Originally posted by Alejandro Nova View PostFedora and Arch Linux. Ubuntu with his pro-Mir patches that won't be included anywhere else is a distortion to any relevant benchmark of the Linux graphic stack.
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Originally posted by mrugiero View PostLXDE might not stick strictly with X, but Lubuntu maintainers want to avoid the extra memory use compositing implies (from the buffers you need for every window and such, not implying that either Mir or Wayland would use more memory by themselves because that's not even likely). Remember one of the focus of Lubuntu is to minimize memory use, and they already stated they might want to avoid compositing all in all. Wayland and Mir mandate compositing for traditional desktop use.
Also, Openbox might not be ported (it's not very active, so I don't think anyone will port it in the short term), so they'll have to use a different window manager than the de facto standard for LXDE if they want to use Wayland.
Originally posted by chrisb View PostYes, all the Ubuntu derivatives could rebase on something else, but how could they do that seamlessly so that users can upgrade from their existing installs? It certainly isn't trivial to write an upgrade program that takes arbitrary Ubuntu derivative desktop install X and replaces it with Fedora whilst maintaining all the user's custom configuration and packages. I suppose they could take the easy way out and not allow users to upgrade - demand a fresh install - but that's not user friendly. There is also the issue of converting all of their custom package patches, package/ISO build scripts, installers, etc. to a new distribution. It could be done, Debian would be the obvious choice. For some derivatives the switch might be trivial, but for some others it could be quite a bit of work.
But why should the people who make those Ubuntu derivatives bother switching? I doubt their users are demanding it. Perhaps they are still happy using Ubuntu. Should they do it to satisfy the whims of Phoronix users? Keep in mind that Xorg isn't being removed on Ubuntu, so any reason you propose has to be better than the default of carrying on using Ubuntu+Xorg. The only possible reason I can see is if Ubuntu ceased as a distribution - but that is unlikely - it is much more likely to morph into something else than to disappear altogether from the face of the earth.
Originally posted by all2well View PostThis is just false, Wayland is in the default Ubuntu repos.
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Originally posted by verde View PostAs for 12/2011
Facebook Shares
Another interesting statistic we can find online is the number of times a distro?s home page has been shared on Facebook. While clearly not an exact indication of a distro?s popularity, it can give us some idea of how many people share a link to their favorite distro with their friends. The following statistics come from the Facebook Graph API and show links to the distro?s homepage. Ubuntu has a clear lead in Facebook shares, with Linux Mint and Fedora fighting for second.
Ubuntu - 83,945 shares
Linux Mint - 7,762 shares
Fedora - 6,313 shares
Debian - 3,986 shares
Arch - 1,445 shares
CentOS - 979 shares
openSUSE - 599 shares
PCLinuxOS - 573 shares
Puppy - 426 shares
Mandriva - 419 shares
This is like a fanboysm meter.
http://www.starryhope.com/ubuntu-mos...-linux-distro/
But i think this is more accurate:
Ubuntu 28,5%
Debian 19,5%
Fedora 7,4%
Slackwave 6,4%
Suse 6,2%
Gentoo 4,2%
CentOS 4,1%
Arch 3,5%
Kubuntu 2%
Red Hat 1,7%
Mint 1,6%
etc.
"Of course, this way you won't get all Linux users counted as not every Linux user will register himself at the Linux Counter site."
the Facebook Graph's hmm, Ubuntu has facebook preinstalled and, i know damn will it's not counting Tv's Android etc that run Linux,
i see you don't want to use the Real Sites that show Ubuntu being at sub 1% of Linux Users, i say Ubuntu is more like 20%-30%, i know even on the sites i have admin to it shows Ubuntu being really low on the counts, even jupiter broadcasting also pointed it out that many users have moved away from Ubuntu, a lot of Tech Sites have also has been saying to use Mint>Ubuntu to not use Ubuntu at all
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Originally posted by peppercats View PostPlease include Gentoo, I'd like to see what real benefits you gain from compiling all of your own software.
I don't use it, but it's really the only distro that has a huge difference between the conventional ones.
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Originally posted by mrugiero View PostDo you realize LFS isn't even a distro, in the traditional meaning, do you? I mean, it's just docs, they don't even keep a central repo of sources (that's what keep it from being a source based distro). Manually built OS can't count as a distribution, because you are not actually *distributing*.
The idea of benchmarks is for users to get an idea of how it will run for them, and LFS is the furthest from something you can extrapolate, it's 100% custom.
Also, Debian unstable, maybe, but stable wouldn't help.
That's the idea!
PS: LFS should be in a given preset of configuration that everyone can verify!
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Originally posted by GreatEmerald View PostIn the short term, yes. In the long term it may be too difficult for Lubuntu maintainers to keep both standalone X.org and LXDE on X.org running correctly.
Originally posted by leif81 View PostFedora. Because it usually has the latest upstream development features first. IMO, it's the most exciting to watch.
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Originally posted by phielix View PostI'm aware of that and yes I meant debian stable! So lets set the two (debian stable as distro and LFS as non-distro) in brackets like this (debian and LFS) as recommended systems to be bench-marked just for reference! So everybody can see how a untouched system would perform in comparison to real distros!
That's the idea!
PS: LFS should be in a given preset of configuration that everyone can verify!
In that case, it might be used as a comparison between minimal system and distros.
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