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Last edited by -MacNuke-; 07 January 2022, 12:23 PM.
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Originally posted by Setif
appimage:
- auto-mounted every time you launch it (slow first startup)
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Originally posted by user1 View PostDoes anyone notice that Appimages are a bit more underrated compared to Snaps and Flatpaks? I actually had the best experience with them probably because they are not sandboxed, so they don't have all the issues that are caused by sandboxing, from which both Snaps and Flatpaks suffer. They also usually take less disk space. But I guess that the fact that they aren't sandboxed is precisely the reason there is less attention to Appimages.
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For some time, I've considered Canonical to be effectively harmful to Linux. Snapcraft is the ultimate example, proprietary BS that takes control over the OS from users and puts it into corporate hands. The kind of Microsoft crap I would steer miles away from.
At this point, I never recommend Ubuntu to newcomers anymore. I instead usually recommend the distros that come with Flathub by default, or Fedora + setting up Flathub.
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Originally posted by Danny3 View PostFuck you Canonical with the whole Snap crap!
You're obsessed with taking control from the users on their computers.
Windows is far from perfect, and I would not even touch it with a stick, but at least Microsoft is giving a lot more freedom to users than Apple.
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Originally posted by Sesivany View Post
It was not. Both projects started in late 2014, just a few weeks apart . Flatpak (xdg-app back then) was based on Alex Larsson's experiments with portable apps that went all the way to 2000s.
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Originally posted by Vistaus View Post
Windows is still pretty open and actually works offline. Don't you mean Apple? If anyone's tightening the screws, it's Apple on macOS. And macOS also doesn't work properly offline when Apple's servers are down, as proven last year when there was an outage at Apple and people couldn't really use macOS anymore until Apple's servers were up again.
Windows is far from perfect, and I would not even touch it with a stick, but at least Microsoft is giving a lot more freedom to users than Apple.
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Originally posted by Setifthe app have to depends on a specific runtime version (at least freedesktop-XX =~300MB), ie: self-contained package.
I don't have to build Qt myself on Windows/macOS, but I ship only the required libs with my app.
The issue is that flatpak/snap doesn't have an equivalent to windeployqt/macdeployqt, so you have two choices:
- build Qt yourself (It took hours), and extract the required runtime libs/plugins yourself.
- Use their bloated Qt.
You are not wrong for sure but it is corner case nitpicking over a couple of MB. edit: And you are missing the advantage that the Flatpak runtime comes with modern Mesa. So you will get up-to-date mesa drivers on distributions that are lacking them.Last edited by -MacNuke-; 07 January 2022, 01:05 PM.
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