Microsoft Has A Large Presence At This Year's X.Org Conference

[JPFSanders]

looks like wayland will fall and the peolpe will fork X and back to X

Wayland will get there in time, there is no point in forking X, wayland will eventually absorb X.

X is not going anywhere but wayland eventually will take the command seat.

Perhaps we would get there faster if it wasn't for Nvidia's constant sabotage.

[Volta]

looks like wayland will fall and the peolpe will fork X and back to X

Looks like you're totally wrong.

[andre30correia]

looks like wayland will fall and the peolpe will fork X and back to X

[kpedersen]

Nope, GUI support under WSL2 will be leveraging Wayland from day one.

Just to be clear, that sounds like you are saying that unless you use X11... there is no GUI support in WSL2 (via Wayland) yet

Are you able to use WSL2 and Wayland today like you can with VcXsrv or Xming the day WSL2 came out?

[intelfx]

Is good ol' X11 still the only way that WSL can display GUI programs on Windows? That is a little sad non-one has a better solution. It does kind of demonstrate how important a network aware display system is though. Imagine if all we had was Wayland...

Nope, GUI support under WSL2 will be leveraging Wayland from day one. There will be no X11, its network transparency is completely useless for modern hardware accelerated GUIs.

You know, XDC is a misnomer — it’s not just about X.

[Prescience500]

Considering how vibrant and independent the Linux ecosystem is, would they even be able to extinguish? I mean, many of the players like Red Hat/IBM, are in and of themselves powerful in their own right.

[kpedersen]

Microsoft at an Xorg conference.

Oh god, perhaps Xorg really is obsolete these days.

Is good ol' X11 still the only way that WSL can display GUI programs on Windows? That is a little sad non-one has a better solution. It does kind of demonstrate how important a network aware display system is though. Imagine if all we had was Wayland...

[JPFSanders]

Microsoft's WSL strategy seems really dumb to me. Why are they bothering with trying to get Linux to run under Windows so much? This is backwards.

They want windows developers to stick to windows, and windows centric companies to not bother running on metal linux

There is a type of modern developer who is lazy and woefully ignorant (they know very little about low level stuff and leverage copy/paste a lot) MS knows this and want to prevent those developers from ever moving to Linux.

By embracing running Linux on top of windows they keep those developers on an environment that is familiar and works for them.

Trying to run bare metal Linux is not always straight-forward and requires to learn. Those ILD (Ignorant lazy devs) will feel at home running windows while they leverage whatever Linux has to offer that is unavailable on Windows for the time being.

MS might not know how to do the extinguish phase yet, but you can count that they're waiting for the right moment and the right opportunity.

Getting into the action right now getting involved with Linuxland and pretending to be your friend is what they always do to any industry they want to assault.

What count is not words but actions, what has MS done that benefits the Linux ecosystem at large? so far: NOTHING.

Always keep in mind, besides themselves, Linux is their only competition left.

What they should've been doing is getting everybody's Windows apps to work fast and smooth under Linux. Then they could finally sunset Windows as the second rate OS that it always was. This would free themselves from unnecessary OS security and maintenance work that Linux does so much better, for free.

They will never do such a thing, MS only does what is good for MS, and this is what the Linux community/ecosystem should do, do things that are good for Linux, however keeping an eye on not falling into traps from the likes of MS.

MS has a money printing machine with their stronghold of Exchange, Office and Windows on the desktop which also pushes sales of windows servers, why would they break it?

[Remote User]

An Xserver from Microsoft... How many times did that get voted down over the decades, I wonder. Yeah, thin client computing... I know. Remote users are OK, as long as Microsoft gets paid the same as if they had their own PC and Windows license.

[ed31337]

Microsoft's WSL strategy seems really dumb to me. Why are they bothering with trying to get Linux to run under Windows so much? This is backwards.

What they should've been doing is getting everybody's Windows apps to work fast and smooth under Linux. Then they could finally sunset Windows as the second rate OS that it always was. This would free themselves from unnecessary OS security and maintenance work that Linux does so much better, for free.