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  • Apache Software Foundation Estimates Its Code Value Increased ~$600M For FY2020

    Phoronix: Apache Software Foundation Estimates Its Code Value Increased ~$600M For FY2020

    For fiscal year 2019 the Apache Software Foundation valued their codebase at around $20 billion USD. The open-source organization has now published their annual report for fiscal year 2020...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...oundation-FY20

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    And to think Oracle was fine with Apache leaving JCP...

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      I don't really think it is worth all that, not even nearly.
      I mean they can count lines of code and make an estimate to what it would have cost to develop that, but that doesn't mean the code is worth that even if it would have cost that much to develop it.

      Apache is like a graveyard for dead software, when some big company abandons a piece of software they donate it to the Apache Software Foundation.

      Also most of the software owned by ASF is open source, freely available and not commercial so nobody is paying anyone anything to use that software.

      It is not like any company would be interested in buying the Apache Software Foundation for $20 billion, or even $2 billion.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by uid313 View Post
        It is not like any company would be interested in buying the Apache Software Foundation for $20 billion, or even $2 billion.
        That's not what the purpose of the estimate is. Even the PR clearly says " provides 227M+ lines of code, valued at more than $20B, to the public-at-large at 100% no cost."

        The purpose of the estimate is essentially to show that Apache foundation is alive and doing well. They have plenty of software that is very widely used including Hadoop, Kafka, Thrift, Spark etc

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        • #5
          Originally posted by RahulSundaram View Post

          That's not what the purpose of the estimate is. Even the PR clearly says " provides 227M+ lines of code, valued at more than $20B, to the public-at-large at 100% no cost."

          The purpose of the estimate is essentially to show that Apache foundation is alive and doing well. They have plenty of software that is very widely used including Hadoop, Kafka, Thrift, Spark etc
          Yeah, and Apache OpenOffice that consists of millions of lines of code but nobody use it since everybody is using LibreOffice.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by uid313 View Post
            I don't really think it is worth all that, not even nearly.
            I mean they can count lines of code and make an estimate to what it would have cost to develop that, but that doesn't mean the code is worth that even if it would have cost that much to develop it.

            Apache is like a graveyard for dead software, when some big company abandons a piece of software they donate it to the Apache Software Foundation.

            Also most of the software owned by ASF is open source, freely available and not commercial so nobody is paying anyone anything to use that software.

            It is not like any company would be interested in buying the Apache Software Foundation for $20 billion, or even $2 billion.
            You do realize they shepherd Kafka, among other things, don't you?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by uid313 View Post

              Yeah, and Apache OpenOffice that consists of millions of lines of code but nobody use it since everybody is using LibreOffice.
              You'll be surprised. I saw a lot of not-really-tech-savvy people still using it, specifically on Windows machines. They probably started before the split and didn't catch the news about LibreOffice.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by bug77 View Post

                You do realize they shepherd Kafka, among other things, don't you?
                Yeah, but I don't think Kafka is worth $20 billion.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by uid313 View Post

                  Yeah, but I don't think Kafka is worth $20 billion.
                  What you said earlier:

                  >Apache is like a graveyard for dead software, when some big company abandons a piece of software they donate it to the Apache Software Foundation.

                  This is definitely incorrect. You can find dozens of active projects widely used from the foundation. Even Openoffice.org has a lot of brand recognition (in that case, unfortunately) and is downloaded frequently

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by RahulSundaram View Post

                    What you said earlier:

                    >Apache is like a graveyard for dead software, when some big company abandons a piece of software they donate it to the Apache Software Foundation.

                    This is definitely incorrect. You can find dozens of active projects widely used from the foundation. Even Openoffice.org has a lot of brand recognition (in that case, unfortunately) and is downloaded frequently
                    Yeah, OpenOffice.org have a lot of brand recognition and is downloaded frequently by people who don't know about LibreOffice. OpenOffice.org is dead, LibreOffice is where it's at.

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