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Originally posted by Ardje View PostWell, I had to repair enough systems that got brought down thanks to systemd. If a simple typo or something you forget in an init file can make systemd bring your system down, or one of the daemons it should keep alive breaks down and then systemd starts killing your system with no throttling or whatsoever, then how good is it. It takes a long time before systemd comes close as being as stable as sysv-init. And don't give me the windows users mentality "works for me just reinstall your system". Even the init replacement in OS-X works more stable.
There are certain features about systemd that are ok. At least the ntp replacement works with IPv6-link-local, so that's a big+.
But anyway, nice trolling, I took the bait.
Sysvinit is not stable. I have admins attempt to stop services kill the wrong server and it be something important. I have had to repair my fair share of sysvinit caused screw ups as well.
I really want someone to make a init system default in a distribution that is not a "works for me solution". Openrc has a roadmap to make some more decent than system so does shepherd.
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Lets say we go with what is possible by dropping portable. compatible, small, fast and secure and we weed out the init systems Devuan to give what that promise. The result would be 2 competitor init systems. Openrc and Shepherd. After you have openrc working then you can revisit s6 and runit. sinit core pid1 is not smaller than the openrc one so it really make no sense and Deamontools-encore really needs openrc to work right.
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How about Skype for Business? That thing barely works on anything, and there are cases where people like me need to use it. Even on macOS, it causes trouble after it gets updated, same goes for iOS. The most reliable way to run that piece of crap for me is a Windows virtual machine with Skype running as an Internet Explorer plugin.
At some point (due to problems with audio setup, because pulseaudio is pulseaudio) I gave up and just decided to phone into calls I was supposed to attend, simply because that's the only semi-reliable way to participate. It costed me quite a bit of money, simply because M$ is inept.
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Originally posted by oiaohm View PostReally its trolling from you. Did I once say that systemd worked right. No I did not.
You are correct that in the most optimal solution still has to be found, and I agree that systemd is far from optimal. And as much as I hate systemd, there are people/free time developers that develop for certain distro's only, and since I do not have the time to meddle with dependencies, I suck it up and try to make the best and be out of the way of systemd as much as possible. I wish I could drop systemd off a cliff like you did :-(.
Anyway, thanks for correcting me.
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Originally posted by q2dg View PostIf it isn't free (as in freedom), it doesn't worthy
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Originally posted by Azrael5 View Postfinally microsoft begins to develop its own linux Os so many linux distributions will end because they are pure garbage.
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Originally posted by DoMiNeLa10 View PostHow about Skype for Business? That thing barely works on anything, and there are cases where people like me need to use it. Even on macOS, it causes trouble after it gets updated, same goes for iOS. The most reliable way to run that piece of crap for me is a Windows virtual machine with Skype running as an Internet Explorer plugin.
At some point (due to problems with audio setup, because pulseaudio is pulseaudio) I gave up and just decided to phone into calls I was supposed to attend, simply because that's the only semi-reliable way to participate. It costed me quite a bit of money, simply because M$ is inept.
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Originally posted by dovla091 View PostBecause of you "the opensource talibans", linux support is progressing slowly. "We need open source...." No we don't, we need a fully functional stable PC/Server with full hardware support,
HP, Intel, Nvidia or whoever write those drivers which code is not released for public... If they are following ethics, I don't care,
Most people wanting opensource drivers want it because it allows maintenance to the drivers from third parties (like say all the work done by Collabora and other such paid third party paid development), so they don't break in less then a year when the Linux kernel changes.
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Originally posted by DoMiNeLa10 View PostHow about Skype for Business? That thing barely works on anything, and there are cases where people like me need to use it. Even on macOS, it causes trouble after it gets updated, same goes for iOS. The most reliable way to run that piece of crap for me is a Windows virtual machine with Skype running as an Internet Explorer plugin.
At some point (due to problems with audio setup, because pulseaudio is pulseaudio) I gave up and just decided to phone into calls I was supposed to attend, simply because that's the only semi-reliable way to participate. It costed me quite a bit of money, simply because M$ is inept.
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