GitLab Is A Vast Improvement To FreeDesktop.org's Infrastructure

[Luke]

Great and what project under the FreeDesktop.org banner does that apply to?


Oh you mean like Obama, and W, and Clinton who was the one to actually start the associated program because most of these children aren't actually with their parents and are instead victims of child sex trafficking and this was an attempt to stop it?

Obama was bad enough on migrant rights, but Trump is an order of magnitude worse. He now wants a Berlin Wall on the Rio Grande, even though the US-Mexico border kills probably as many people every years as the Berlin Wall did in all the time it existed.

When someone under Obama proposed routine prosecution and separating ALL familes, it was shot down as "too extreme." Don't repeat the "Big Lies" that Trump is trying to gaslight everyone with! We know for sure what Trump did, because we have the photos, that famous audio recording, and the testimonies of children themselves. Trump bears command responsibility for horrors like that "shelter" for children caught injecting 5 years olds with drugs to keep them quiet, and threatening ALL the kids there with being held until age 18 if they were noisy.

Trump is evil, he is a racist who surrounds himself with neo-Nazis like Stephen Miller. Miller is the author of the family separation program, a man whose condo I have personally protested outside. Putting migration of Indigenous people on Indigenous land aside, how about asking the 230 people Trump's prosecutors seriously tried to get sent to prison for 70-80 YEARS for protesting his inauguration?

I am proud to be Antifa, proud to stand on the front lines of FIGHTING fascism, as my father did before me when he fought in WWII!

[Hi-Angel]

I don't like gitlab. Did you know it doesn't allow to push into your forked repo with password? Now you do. You gotta jump through the hoops to make an ssh key, store it somewhere, add it to your profile, then to make git it to use it… Damn this is confusing and annoying! Why had they to replace good old login/password system with something so terrible that makes you to reconsider whether you really want to contribute to gitlab-hosted project?

[Luke_Wolf]

Obama was bad enough on migrant rights, but Trump is an order of magnitude worse. He now wants a Berlin Wall on the Rio Grande, even though the US-Mexico border kills probably as many people every years as the Berlin Wall did in all the time it existed.

When someone under Obama proposed routine prosecution and separating ALL familes, it was shot down as "too extreme." Don't repeat the "Big Lies" that Trump is trying to gaslight everyone with! We know for sure what Trump did, because we have the photos, that famous audio recording, and the testimonies of children themselves. Trump bears command responsibility for horrors like that "shelter" for children caught injecting 5 years olds with drugs to keep them quiet, and threatening ALL the kids there with being held until age 18 if they were noisy.

Trump is evil, he is a racist who surrounds himself with neo-Nazis like Stephen Miller. Miller is the author of the family separation program, a man whose condo I have personally protested outside. Putting migration of Indigenous people on Indigenous land aside, how about asking the 230 people Trump's prosecutors seriously tried to get sent to prison for 70-80 YEARS for protesting his inauguration?

I am proud to be Antifa, proud to stand on the front lines of FIGHTING fascism, as my father did before me when he fought in WWII!

You know for someone so deep into conspiracies, one would think that you'd be doing something other than just regurgitating the false narratives of the corporate propaganda networks.

[starshipeleven]

Of course it's politics.

No it is not. There was significant lobby money behind both. That's not political.

More to the point, what does that have to do with anything about hosting Mesa on Google's cloud service?

It gives an idea of the surroundings.

And it's the ISP's that can then charge extra or block it - something they can do whether it's on google's servers or hosted somewhere in Europe, or wherever. It's the US end-user using a US ISP that's affected, nothing to do with the servers location.

Technically speaking, servers don't magically connect to the internet, they have an ISP too. And such ISP can throttle them selectively all they want as long as this isn't explicitly forbidden in the contract.

Not that ISP should care about low traffic git repositories anyway, that was just an example.

Ok, now you're really losing me. What kind of trouble could anyone get into by contributing to Mesa?

that's the issue with big data, you can't know.
For example, there were many cases of children ending up in their no-fly lists as "suspicious" for no real reason. Being children it was easy to just assume it was a mistake and give them clearance anyway, but this points out the underlying issue in the data analysis. How many adults went into such blacklists with no appeal?

And I hate to break this to you, but all the contributions are already tracked closely, by the projects themselves, for the purpose of copyright. If you're working on a public open source project, you aren't anonymous.

Haha, you're new to this. There is no authentication that ensures that people aren't just using a fake name. The "signed-off-by" line serves mainly the purpose of protecting the project itself from third party copyright claims, not to authenticate contributors in any way.

If a third party wants to claim that some code was committed by their people will have to find someone that is actually called like the name in the signed-off-by and prove that this person was working for them at the time the commit was sent. This is deemed hard enough to protect the project.

Many contributors use fake names all the time, and none has any idea nor cares about that, as it isn't the main goal.

If the US somehow suddenly decides that Mesa is illegal (HOW??? WHY???)

The official justification will probably stink, but the actual reason will just be "because some lobby thinks it should be stopped". The issue here is that a large project should not be in a position where it should care about that.

[starshipeleven]

Here's another open secret for you.

That's not my point. I never claimed that before it was better. My point was that they reached so blatant level of "just doing shit because they are untouchable" that I deem dangerous.

Really, just read all the proceedings for the Net Neutrality repeal, they stole identities to post supportive posts on their own "feedback" feed (which is official) and then refused to provide information to their own investigators. https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/a...-investigation

[Luke_Wolf]

That's not my point. I never claimed that before it was better. My point was that they reached so blatant level of "just doing shit because they are untouchable" that I deem dangerous.

Really, just read all the proceedings for the Net Neutrality repeal, they stole identities to post supportive posts on their own "feedback" feed (which is official) and then refused to provide information to their own investigators. https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/a...-investigation

Your point is null and void because your point relies upon the notion that there was actually a Net Neutrality to repeal in the first place rather than a propagandized shift to giving the FCC regulatory control over the internet with the potential end game of finally foisting FCC morality and censorship rules onto the internet (Hello? Anyone remember the "Internet Bullying" crap that the media was fapping on about), which was then repealed and control was given back to the FTC where things returned once again to the working status quo.

Yeah they're untouchable but that's what happens when you have 5 corporations controlling ALL of the media and the one opposition channel is nothing more than controlled opposition, all of these corporations having deep political interests, and that's why Trump scares the shit out of them the same way the Pauls and Sanders do... because they break that untouchable control.

[tambre]

An unfortunate step back from hosting their GitLab instance on GCE is that they lose IPv6 support. Unless they're planning on putting it behind a load balancer, which would cost quite a bit extra.
That said, I always find it funny, how Google has been promoting IPv6 for almost 10 years and almost all of their own websites and services support IPv6, except their cloud services, whose IPv6 support is pretty much non-existant for the important parts.

[You-]

There is also the issue of export controls that apply to hosting in the US.

Once sanctions are in full flow again against (eg) Iran, can a developer based there be allowed to access and use or contribute to the code?

These issues are mostly ignored because they are rarely taken issue with.

[GreenByte]

I don't like gitlab. Did you know it doesn't allow to push into your forked repo with password? Now you do. You gotta jump through the hoops to make an ssh key, store it somewhere, add it to your profile, then to make git it to use it… Damn this is confusing and annoying! Why had they to replace good old login/password system with something so terrible that makes you to reconsider whether you really want to contribute to gitlab-hosted project?

Maybe because it is not as secure? And no, you don't have to store it **somewhere**, you have it store in the standard ssh key location ~/.ssh/id_rsa and it should just work. If you are willing to be secure, you will manage to do this and if you are not, your password will probably be simple enough to be guessed, making gitlab's policy completely valid.

[Hi-Angel]

And no, you don't have to store it **somewhere**, you have it store in the standard ssh key location ~/.ssh/id_rsa and it should just work

You don't know where this place before someone told you, or you looked up on the internet. For the first time, as well as every time you gonna forget it because it's not something you do often or would like to remember, it's "somewhere".

If you are willing to be secure, you will manage to do this and if you are not, your password will probably be simple enough to be guessed, making gitlab's policy completely valid.

This is less secure, because now I have 2 laptops (one personal, and another on the work) with private keys in a "non-somewhere" directory, and anybody can steal it (either physically, or virtually), and use to do stuff from my account. You see what's the difference with passwords? Here's a hint: they're only in my head.

And no, my password is far not easy to guess.