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Originally posted by andyprough View Post
You're taking a statistic from 2,000 GNU/Linux gamer profiles on a gamer website to represent all GNU/Linux users?
How very scientific.
You do realize that the likely reason KDE is number one in that poll is because it's the default on the Steamdeck, don't you?
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Originally posted by Weasel View PostMust be why these vulnerabilities are exposed and fixed. I guess they fix themselves, no maintainers needed.
There are still a lot of users running X, and Red Hat and various other large companies have support contracts out there for products that use X. Therefore they are contractually obligated to fix up security vulnerabilities like this. So if that's your only definition, then no - not dead yet. Not until those contracts expire, anyway.
But in the larger sense, there's zero work going on to add new features to X. There's nobody that matters planning to continue using X for the long term. There's no more community involvement in X beyond making changes to get it working better with XWayland. So from that perspective, it's dead.
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Originally posted by smitty3268 View PostI guess it depends on your definition of dead.
There are still a lot of users running X, and Red Hat and various other large companies have support contracts out there for products that use X. Therefore they are contractually obligated to fix up security vulnerabilities like this. So if that's your only definition, then no - not dead yet. Not until those contracts expire, anyway.
But in the larger sense, there's zero work going on to add new features to X. There's nobody that matters planning to continue using X for the long term. There's no more community involvement in X beyond making changes to get it working better with XWayland. So from that perspective, it's dead.
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Originally posted by Weasel View PostIt will stay alive until we get a proper replacement like Arcan instead of crippled Crapland.
X is on life support, Wayland will replace it.
Wayland is simpler than X, Wayland is modularized and specified for modern requirements.
It is of no importance if Wayland is "better" or more "feature complete" (for different types of definitions of this) than X.
Even if Wayland is not so much better it is a desperately needed way out of X.
Maybe Wayland will get replaced very quickly by something other after X has finally been deleted, but then Wayland has made that possible in the first place, which is a huge achievement and consisted of much pain (as we sometimes see it) to get rid of X and allow a future framework with less mountais of legacy and interwoven code and spec.
Wayland is an overdue neccessity and most people can see that. Whatever comes after Wayland has a much better base than Wayland had moving away from X.
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Originally posted by reba View PostSo much reasoning, wow.
X is on life support, Wayland will replace it.
Wayland will never replace X, because it's crippled by design. Doesn't matter if X dies or not, it would be replaced by something else.
Originally posted by reba View PostWayland is simpler than X
Originally posted by reba View PostEven if Wayland is not so much better it is a desperately needed way out of X.
Originally posted by reba View PostWayland is an overdue neccessity and most people can see that.
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