Originally posted by Melcar
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Firefox Developers Have Issues With Linux GPU Drivers Too
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FYI, if you want to help test
It's quite possible the newest drivers have fixed issues and it's just older ones that are crashing. You can test, and report info by doing this:
For now, the best way that you
can reproduce the crashes and failures that we've been experiencing is to grab
a Firefox 4 nightly (not beta, since they have had some bugs fixed), run with the environment variable
MOZ_GLX_IGNORE_BLACKLIST defined, go to about:config and set
webgl.enabled_for_all_sites, and go to:
Run the tests. If a driver can run them all with only few test failures and no
crash, it's quite probably good enough.
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NVidia is NOT disabled on linux
From one of the developers:
NVIDIA proprietary driver is not buggy, for what we are doing (which is pure OpenGL). We are enabling hardware acceleration on X with the NVIDIA proprietary driver.
The FGLRX driver is crashier, it's blacklisted at the moment, this could change (everything hopefully will change :-) )
Yes, you can turn the whole driver blacklisting off by defining the MOZ_GLX_IGNORE_BLACKLIST environment variable. Just launch firefox with this command (you can use it in the properties of your desktop icon, too):
MOZ_GLX_IGNORE_BLACKLIST=1 firefox
We did this blacklisting to put and end to the endless series of linux crashes that were caused by buggy graphics drivers, and were causing lots of grief among linux users ("firefox 4 is crashy!"). This was the top reason for crashiness on linux.
We are looking forward to un-blacklisting drivers as soon as they get good enough
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Originally posted by blackshard View PostSomeone could say that Mozilla cares about Linux because it's part of their mission.
If you don't know what a mission is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_statement
It doesn't care enough to hire a dev or two to help on the graphic stack. Its not their mission. They care about the internet. Also linux doesn't have the marketshare to have more mozilla people working on it. If it was 50% of the desktop market then you would even have QT-mozilla or even E17-mozilla. And this is not a Mozilla problem.
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Originally posted by 89c51 View Postprobably never
Mozilla doesn't care much about Linux (read marketshare) Canonical and the Spaceman is too busy trying to turn Ubuntu in a Mac clone and Intel doesn't want to move to the newer architecture (gallium3d)
+ there is no other way (financial sustainable) of funding the FOOS driver devs outside of hiring them in a company
If you don't know what a mission is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_statement
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Originally posted by cl333r View PostI wonder how much longer are companies going to keep creating stopgap solutions
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