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Guys I completely agree with you that free software isn't free anymore if you have to use firmware blobs, but let's celebrate this massive release for now
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Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostUnknown, but according to Stallman or other Free/Libre proponents it's like that. Suff in ROMs is ok, stuff loaded at runtime is not. Even if it is the same.
Think about XeonPhi cards. They have a complete operating system (although open one, some intel Linux distro) inside them. Now imagine if those cards also contained a SSD, so that you don't need to "upload" the OS from the main OS you are running.
Now the "firmware" (and the whole OS) is contained inside the harware and is ok in FSF standards?
Using that same analogue: If graphics cards would contain flash chips that store heaps of data that run some overly complicated firmware that no-one (except few people) knows what it is doing... It's an 'OK' for FSF?
I'm personally ok with closed-firmwares, where ever they may reside. Open source drivers provide enough flexibility/hackability that community can utilize.
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The firmware is software that runs on the GPU, not part of the driver that lets Linux programs use the GPU. If you want an open source GPU, and you have more money than Donald Trump, why don't you go hire several hundred hardware engineers?
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Originally posted by Marc.2377 View PostThere is enough (imo) C++ support in recent OpenCL versions to be productive: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCL#OpenCL_2.2
I too have a SI card (the R9 280x) but I'm optimistic that ROCm can be made to work with it, given enough time.
Last I checked it was abandoned...
Will definitely test later.
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Originally posted by wizard69 View PostThat is total garbage. What do you want next, the source code to the hardware?
There are real limits to what a company like AMD can do and continue to survive as a company. Lets face it some really bad moves over the last few years have put them in bad shape. Simply put they have to keep certain aspects of their GPUs secret to survive. This has nothing to do with respect of a community.
The Libre movement should be happy that AMD is doing as much as they are. More is better of course but who can we go to that is dramatically better?
https://www.phoronix.com/forums/foru...424#post951424
So that is only what i complain here, do you see there "Driver status > Free/Libre > Yes"? instead of Yes that shoud be No (blob firmware required).
This has nothing to do with respect!!!Last edited by dungeon; 13 May 2017, 05:05 PM.
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