Intel Shafting Linux Users With Clover Trail: No Support

[Pallidus]

dearest troll when I install a linux distro it comes with nouveau drivers and then I have the choice to install proprietary drivers, which I have to download from their site etc etc


when you install android 4 or whatevers I NEVER once saw people having to install proprietary drivers

so if android is open source and the drivers are already in there, how are the drivers not open source???

[Gusar]

how are the mali gfx not open source? don't they have their drivers on android and ain't android open source?

how are the Geforce gfx not open source? don't they have their drivers on linux/X and ain't linux/X open source?

[Pallidus]

Did I buy one of these new atoms? no. So how did I get fooled?

What I'm saying is that oh let me see, I had an atom n455 and it had good support under linux, I'm sure all the other atom's had, am I wrong? I remember seeing netbooks with atoms on stores here selling with ubuntu pre installed.

SO, it's easy to SEE how so many people simply purchased this new atom without thinking twice about it's linux support

and they got trolled by intel

http://communities.intel.com/thread/29157

and people shouldn't really defend intel on this one because intel took a dump all over you people.


This new atom cedar view is the follow up to 2010's pine view...


That means you can only run linux well with 2010 tech, cedar view will be the de facto architecture for netbooks/nettops/ipcs etc for 2012/2013

This means you will not be running linux in an intel netbook this 2 years


SHAME ON INTEL SHAME SHAME

SHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMM MMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

how are the mali gfx not open source? don't they have their drivers on android and ain't android open source?

[DanL]

that's not quite correct DanL

It's spot on. You just can't deal with reality.

when you see "Intel processor with intel integrated graphics" on the store you take it that it's going to run well under linux unlike when you see "amd with radeon hf3rh93"

No, you don't do that, especially when recent history has proven otherwise (Poulsbo). If you do that, then you're lazy and/or ignorant. Just because you want hardware decisions to be so simple that you can go to a store (where Linux is probably a foreign concept to employees) and buy something based on a shiny sticker and a vague "brand name" concept, doesn't mean that's how it is. IIRC, you made the same argument back in a Poulsbo/Cedarview discussion, and I can kind of see how a non-techie could get swindled. However, there's no excuse this time. If Intel fooled folks once, shame on Intel. If the folks get fooled again...

[hoohoo]

No i meant older ones with mechanical interfaces.

In general there seems to be a lack of quality peripherals (mice in particular). Its logitech, MS and then an enormous amount of products that are either of pure quality or ruined by gamer aesthetics. Or both.

Arc mouse is one of new touch mouse models. We're on the same page...



Gamer mice, esp Razer, designers must all be about 16 years old LOL.

[89c51]

The 'arc mouse'? Bought one, it's a terrible mouse. It lives at the bottom of my computer junk box now. Probably Logitech Anywhere MX my fave currently. Nice size, good weight with those two AA batteries it uses.

No i meant older ones with mechanical interfaces.

In general there seems to be a lack of quality peripherals (mice in particular). Its logitech, MS and then an enormous amount of products that are either of pure quality or ruined by gamer aesthetics. Or both.

[hoohoo]

I don't think their latest mice work well with linux (the touch based ones i mean). But yeah. never heard anyone complain about its older stuff.

As for keyboards mechanicals all the way.

The 'arc mouse'? Bought one, it's a terrible mouse. It lives at the bottom of my computer junk box now. Probably Logitech Anywhere MX my fave currently. Nice size, good weight with those two AA batteries it uses.

[89c51]

Also true. MS makes very good keyboards as well, typing on one

They seem to be much better hw company than a sw company.

I don't think their latest mice work well with linux (the touch based ones i mean). But yeah. never heard anyone complain about its older stuff.

As for keyboards mechanicals all the way.

[hoohoo]

What I meant is MS is a monkey on Intel's back and Intel's just throwing a bone (Clover Trail) at MS just to keep that monkey at bay while it works on its OSS initiatives

That explains why M$ is dipping it's toes in the ARM space?

[hoohoo]

In my opinion the best mouse ever made was late-model Microsoft ball mouse. I could spin that thing to do a quick 180 turn and nail a pursuer with my rail gun in Quake II CTF. It was a beautiful move, just a snap of the wrist.

Try that with a new fangled optical mouse - no way!