Originally posted by Marc Driftmeyer
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Intel Announces CPU With HBM2 Memory & AMD Graphics
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I don't think, these chips will cannibalize Risen Mobile sales. As suggested before, the target market for these chips is vastly different. There are two clear indicators for this at the moment. First of all, manufacturing three chips and putting them on some kind of interconnect - no matter how cheap it might be - will always be a lot more expensive than an APU SoC like Ryzen Mobile. The only reason to go the multi-chip route is when the chips would otherwise reach ridiculously huge die sizes as is the case with EPYC where yields suffer greatly. Small mobile chips don't fall into this category. Also, HBM2 is not cheap. So, it is safe to assume that this Intel-AMD-Frankenstein will be an expensive product.
The second and somewhat more obvious reason is that we know the CU count of both products. Ryzen Mobile will feature 8 or 10 CUs. The newly announced Intel-AMD-thingies are apparently going to include 24 CUs. That is another beast entirely.
As it seems, Ryzen Mobile will be quite competitive in both CPU and GPU department. The only real worry is that system manufacturers will keep AMD's chips in low end systems with sub-par build quality and single channel memory.
From my point of view, AMD just managed to tap into an additional piece of the market which earns them some extra money and also increases their relevance in developer mindsets. At the same time, it leaves Nvidia out in the cold for high end mobile systems that would otherwise have included an Intel CPU and some Nvidia mobile GPU. Seems like a good move to me.
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Originally posted by arunbupathy View PostWhaaaat!!!!???? An AMD Radeon GPU on an Intel CPU?! But surely, I'am dreaming, right? I can't believe it is true.
While it looks like it could bring AMD more visibility in the market, this also sounds so much confusing because they already have their own high performance CPUs which they could pair the Radeons with.
But anything that is good for AMD is welcome by me! We need competition. I really hope that this is the fighting chance that AMD deserves. (Although, it was the same Intel who had fucked them over in the past.)
I hope Lisa Su was right in saying that AMD are really back and that they are just getting started. I guess Raja Koduri too deserves praise here for the hard work RTG has put in to make this possible.
Woohoo!! Great times to be living in as a PC enthusiast!
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Originally posted by Mabhatter View Post
AMD doesn’t own Fab anymore so price isn’t as drastic a problem if they get a consistent royalty paycheck. And 3-7 years from one design and a few speed bumps is easy money.
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Originally posted by vito View PostHopefully this makes Intel abandon their OpenCL implementation (i.e. Beigenet) in favor or something that works on Radeon (and Intel) GPUs. Perhaps it is time for Mesa Clover to be resurrected?
Lack of decent and easily accessible OpenCL implementation on Radeon cards is the only reason why we still use Nvidia for number crunching at work. Getting ROCm to work on up to date distros is PITA.
My hope is that this changes in the near future - hopefully once the kernel 4.15 is out, ROCm will work in userspace so it is easy to install on up to date distros like Fedora. Until then, the test Vega cards we got as a proof of concept are collecting dust in the bin.
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