The Rumor Is Back That Future Intel CPUs To Use Radeon Graphics

[Passso]

It is fine if Nintendo wanna try something else, after 15 years ... all big three tried it at least once, well Sony tried green once with PS3 too, Microsoft also with original XBox

Yup, as Zen is not ready now they have to use a modified Tegra, close to X2. Should be an interresting beast considering the graphical raw power (CPU power is another subject...)

[drSeehas]

... IA-64 was announced in 1999 AMD64 in 2001. AMD was copying intel as in slapping 64bit arch as an extension on an existing arch for competing with intel. ...

IA-64 was no extension on an existing (32 bit) arch! So AMD couldn't copy intel at all.

[drSeehas]

... setback for Intel’s home-grown graphics efforts? Anybody remember Timna?

Timna was a CPU not a GPU.

[nuetzel]

the Dec alpha team

A _part_ of the DEC Alpha team.
Dirk Meyer and 'his' team.

Another _part_ went to, YES Intel!
Some to SAMSUNG.

was bought by amd and it produced the Athlon-

The Athlon bus protokol (By licensing the EV6 bus used by the Alpha)

and the same guy went on and produced the Opteron, also knonw by the masses by Athlon 64

Parts of...

so i'd say that the legacy still continues.. i remember having an A64 dual channel oveclocked to FX-58 levels- monstrousity.

Long time ago.

I had the 'second' Athlon 500 running Linux, after Alan Cox. ;-)

[Ronshere]

I am going to start my own rumor. I think Intel will end up buying AMD within 2 years. They are already known to have looked at Nvidia and nothing has happened. but consider that AMD is way cheaper to purchase and can easily deliver a product equal to, and with Intel's patents and technological staff to add to the mix, will be vastly superior. I think this is their way of doing deep behind-the-scenes research into AMD to make up their minds.

[spangry]

It's a defensive move by Intel.

I think Intel (correctly) see nVidia as the bigger threat now, because of things like this: https://www.extremetech.com/wp-conte...9.28.36-AM.png . Although this is just the HPC market (for the moment), nVidia are also starting to lock down growing niches like machine-learning (with CUDA and friends). This will eventually filter down to mainstream servers, and eventually consumer computing as programmers (and programming languages) start exploiting parallelism, FPGAs etc.

GPUs already dominate 'embarrassingly parallel' workloads (e.g. where each run of a loop are independent of each other). Notice in the 'Summit' supercomputer they've replaced PCIe with a much faster IPC bus, and are using 50GB Inifiniband (RDMA capable) network adaptors? This will (a) make it easier to bypass the CPU, and maybe even RAM, altogether, and (b) lower the i/o 'efficiency tax' you pay when you try to process semi-sequential workloads with lots of 'little' processors (i.e. GPUs) instead of a few 'big' ones (i.e. Intel CPUs). By lowering IPC latency you pay less of an i/o 'tax' when shifting semi-sequential workloads around to different 'processors' (e.g Infiniband RDMA can move data from one computer's RAM to another's in ~10-20 nanoseconds).

In a sense, GPGPU is just a specialised version of more generalised distributed computing, with roughly the same problems and solutions. In any case, both trends will eat in to Intel's revenue from traditional CPUs. I wouldn't be surprised if Intel eventually acquire AMD, or buy their Radeon division (which comes with GPU specialist hardware and software developers).

[spangry]

I am going to start my own rumor. I think Intel will end up buying AMD within 2 years. They are already known to have looked at Nvidia and nothing has happened. but consider that AMD is way cheaper to purchase and can easily deliver a product equal to, and with Intel's patents and technological staff to add to the mix, will be vastly superior. I think this is their way of doing deep behind-the-scenes research into AMD to make up their minds.

Couldn't agree more. This is about Intel's long-term survival now that they have nVidia barbarians at the gate.

[Zan Lynx]

I am going to start my own rumor. I think Intel will end up buying AMD within 2 years. They are already known to have looked at Nvidia and nothing has happened. but consider that AMD is way cheaper to purchase and can easily deliver a product equal to, and with Intel's patents and technological staff to add to the mix, will be vastly superior. I think this is their way of doing deep behind-the-scenes research into AMD to make up their minds.

No, they won't buy AMD. They might invest some, quietly behind the scenes. Intel has to keep AMD around or they immediately become a huge target for every country's anti-monopoly enforcement. Right now they can point to AMD and claim "Look we have competition!"

[DJViking]

Hope they wont rely on poor AMD linux drivers.