AMD A10-7800 & A6-7400K APUs Run Great On Linux

[Kivada]

i've played with the mind to buy a APU, but the cpu part is in my opinion to weak and the gpu is to strong for a integrated GPU.

For the same Money i get a i5 thats outperform the CPU part from the A10.

I wish AMD comes with a new FX in the near future. If they want a gpu in it, its fine for me but please not more as a R3 like in the Sempron 2650

AMD went this route for HSA/OpenCL, faster single core CPU performance stopped mattering for the vast majority of people on earth around the time the Intel Core2 line launched, however almost all of the heavy lift tasks that they might do would be better served by GPGPU acceleration over dumping billions more into squeezing another 5-10% out of the CPU.

Most of the major players in ARM are also following AMD's lead on this, they too know that keep pushing CPU performance forever, and as such are also going to be implimenting HSA to make use of the SoC's GPU and DSP for acceleration.

From the sounds of it Intel is interested in this tech as well, theres only a few more process node shrinks left before they can't get any smaller.

[Nille]

AMD went this route for HSA/OpenCL,

But you can't use OpenCL for every workload. And its fine if they want to push it, but for this AMD has to pay many many many more developers to modify software that can utilize the GPU. Or have to be much more interesting for developers. In the past they shit on the developers. Not even at the use cases where its useful is AMD present, e.g. look at the Physic Engines or Video Software. Where are the patches for use AMDs Video Encoder in ffmpeg? Why don't they use OpenMAX on Linux, Windows and Mac? Or where are Announcements, that AMD works with RedHat, Suse, Canonical, Apple and Microsoft, that there Basis System can Utilize HSA directly? For example with the image decoding.

i look for new Hardware all 5-7 Years. Currently there is no sign that we see HSA in this time span grow in each segment.

And like i say, i don't have a problem with an APU, but for my use cases the integrated gpu is useless. Do you know why? i have a better dedicated card and useful HSA software is more as rar.

[Kivada]

But you can't use OpenCL for every workload. And its fine if they want to push it, but for this AMD has to pay many many many more developers to modify software that can utilize the GPU. Or have to be much more interesting for developers. In the past they shit on the developers. Not even at the use cases where its useful is AMD present, e.g. look at the Physic Engines or Video Software. Where are the patches for use AMDs Video Encoder in ffmpeg? Why don't they use OpenMAX on Linux, Windows and Mac? Or where are Announcements, that AMD works with RedHat, Suse, Canonical, Apple and Microsoft, that there Basis System can Utilize HSA directly? For example with the image decoding.

i look for new Hardware all 5-7 Years. Currently there is no sign that we see HSA in this time span grow in each segment.

And like i say, i don't have a problem with an APU, but for my use cases the integrated gpu is useless. Do you know why? i have a better dedicated card and useful HSA software is more as rar.

http://www.hsafoundation.com/

https://wiki.linaro.org/WorkingGroups/Middleware/Graphics/GPGPU

http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1407.1/02923.html

http://sourceforge.net/p/libjpeg-turbo/patches/40/

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/04/amd-demos-hsa-for-the-server-room-with-java-on-top/

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/07/libreoffice-aims-to-stop-spreadsheet-pain-with-amd-gpu-optimization/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=143k1fqPukk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJGLKHhf1EI

OpenCL and HSA are the future, AMD is cementing it right now.

[Kivada]

Almost forgot, Apple is making use of it as well.

https://developer.apple.com/opencl/

https://developer.apple.com/technologies/mac/core.html

[Nille]

i know all this links. And its like a drop in the bucket. Most stuff is currently only bullshitbingo

by the way. try to get the libreoffice spreadsheet from AMD and look at the calculations. The utilization is for the most customers very small.