Ubuntu 13.10 32-bit vs. 64-bit Performance

[Calinou]

System responsiveness is the Same on MATE for me when using compositing or not it's Gaming is around 1 to 3 FPS Differents in Games i can upload a Video for you if you want

That's with "real" fullscreen (enjoy your impossibly to Alt+Tab in 90% of games). When playing windowed or with "fake" fullscreen (eg. Source games), you'll definitely notice a difference.

[LinuxGamer]

1) Different WM, that is why, for both gaming and system responsiveness. Any WM not using compositing will have very similar performance in games.

2) The packages are the same, but the releases are delayed compared to Ubuntu.

On Xubuntu 13.04, I don't have any hang-on-shutdown problems, but generally I wait a bit (a few weeks) before reinstalling so that the showstopper bugs are fixed (and the servers being less loaded).

That said, Mint does look interesting and has a few good points.

System responsiveness is the Same on MATE for me when using compositing or not it's Gaming is around 1 to 3 FPS Differents in Games i can upload a Video for you if you want

the delayed is to have a clean install on Linux Mint and not a beta install like on UBUNTU

[Calinou]

Really, is that why I can get more FPS on games running Mint 15 and I get better system responsiveness and my shutdowns don't hang like it does on Ubuntu?

Oh and is that why all my packages and software matches that of current up to date version on Ubuntu as well?

1) Different WM, that is why, for both gaming and system responsiveness. Any WM not using compositing will have very similar performance in games.

2) The packages are the same, but the releases are delayed compared to Ubuntu.

On Xubuntu 13.04, I don't have any hang-on-shutdown problems, but generally I wait a bit (a few weeks) before reinstalling so that the showstopper bugs are fixed (and the servers being less loaded).

That said, Mint does look interesting and has a few good points.

[enihcam]

How is there no way to optimize it?

use result to prove i am wrong. I would suggest phoronix to test x86-32bit router vs x86-64bit router (download both images from www.pfsense.org)

[enihcam]

can you please cut the crap about the distrowar in here? this is clearly 64 vs 32 bit architecture.
can we please discuss the failure of the apache benchmarch, which is a big deal for systems running apache ... like ... this page? or any page?
also i care more about the x32 deal. i don't know anything about it now (thanks for the input btw) but is there some option to run a 32bit-firefox on a 64bit system with a 32bit option for a speedup?

I would suggest to benchmark all ipv4 related scenarios.

[Maegashira]

come on!

can you please cut the crap about the distrowar in here? this is clearly 64 vs 32 bit architecture.
can we please discuss the failure of the apache benchmarch, which is a big deal for systems running apache ... like ... this page? or any page?
also i care more about the x32 deal. i don't know anything about it now (thanks for the input btw) but is there some option to run a 32bit-firefox on a 64bit system with a 32bit option for a speedup?

[synaptix]

thats not possible. kernel and file-sytem is the same. DE has nothing to do with that.. Probably you where copying from Ubuntu to slave and then from slave to Mint. thats not same process for both prime and slave HDD.

Actually it was master to master copy entire ~/.steam folder to ~/Documents/.steam.

I only use slave as reserve backup.

Also this was both on Kernel 3.11-rc2 as well. I've always had slow transfers and system unreponsiveness on vanilla Ubuntu, which never happens on Xubuntu or Mint.

[verde]

Mint reads and writes to my HDD and to my slave drive faster than Ubuntu does as well, DE has nothing to do with that.

Ubuntu write to HDD = 28MB/s (and the entire system became unresponsive to input and greyed out quite a few times as well)

Mint write to HDD = 74MB/s

This was copying my entire TF2 folder and all game files.

thats not possible. kernel and file-sytem is the same in Ubuntu and Mint. DE has nothing to do with that.. Probably you where copying from Ubuntu to slave and then from slave to Mint. thats not same process for both prime and slave HDD.

[synaptix]

Thats the difference the desktop environment makes, swap out unity with the desktop you are using on Mint and the results will be virtually identical between the two.

Mint reads and writes to my HDD and to my slave drive faster than Ubuntu does as well, DE has nothing to do with that.

Ubuntu write to HDD = 28MB/s (and the entire system became unresponsive to input and greyed out quite a few times as well)

Mint write to HDD = 74MB/s

This was copying my entire TF2 folder and all game files.

[Kivada]

Really, is that why I can get more FPS on games running Mint 15 and I get better system responsiveness and my shutdowns don't hang like it does on Ubuntu?

Oh and is that why all my packages and software matches that of current up to date version on Ubuntu as well?

Thats the difference the desktop environment makes, swap out unity with the desktop you are using on Mint and the results will be virtually identical between the two.