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Yes, this all stands, but expecting AMD to overtake Intel is ridiculous at this time.
However, with the next year's Steamroller (using 28nm), they might regain performance parity with Intel, and this is really good, considering that they've been trailing for ages now. Of course they're behind in fab and profits, but if the company is to have a chance of recovering, it's important to come up with competitive products again.
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AMD isn't bad deal in case of 2 hour of full load per day and discrete graphics card
3770K - 318 Euro
FX-8350 - 190 Euro
1 kWh - 0.2 Euro
According to XBitLabs
3770K - 132 Watt at full load
FX-8350 - 213 Watt at full load
0.08 * 2 * 365 * 0.2 = 11.68 Euro per year more in case of AMD
128/11.68 = 11 years - time of equal costs
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Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View PostYes, this all stands, but expecting AMD to overtake Intel is ridiculous at this time.
However, with the next year's Steamroller (using 28nm), they might regain performance parity with Intel, and this is really good, considering that they've been trailing for ages now. Of course they're behind in fab and profits, but if the company is to have a chance of recovering, it's important to come up with competitive products again.
It's hard to come up with competitive products when profit remains elusive. Not to mention the engineers AMD plans to lay off. Managers by themselves do not build much
It's pretty clear AMD can't beat intel at its own game. What they need is another revolutionary idea like when they chose to up IPC rather than MHz or when they cleverly adding 64bit capability to 32bit CPUs. But these ideas are the stuff of legends...
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Originally posted by JS987 View PostAMD isn't bad deal in case of 2 hour of full load per day and discrete graphics card
3770K - 318 Euro
FX-8350 - 190 Euro
1 kWh - 0.2 Euro
According to XBitLabs
3770K - 132 Watt at full load
FX-8350 - 213 Watt at full load
0.08 * 2 * 365 * 0.2 = 11.68 Euro per year more in case of AMD
128/11.68 = 11 years - time of equal costs
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Originally posted by JS987 View PostAMD isn't bad deal in case of 2 hour of full load per day and discrete graphics card
3770K - 318 Euro
FX-8350 - 190 Euro
1 kWh - 0.2 Euro
According to XBitLabs
3770K - 132 Watt at full load
FX-8350 - 213 Watt at full load
0.08 * 2 * 365 * 0.2 = 11.68 Euro per year more in case of AMD
128/11.68 = 11 years - time of equal costs
The 80 Watt difference is also different from my calculations of 113. Here 1/3 cut, there 1/3 cut and you magically get 50% off
Its very good they at least reduced idle to great degree.
By the way,.. we are missing one more important point - not every CPU cuts power exactly when it finishes the task. So, it could be that Intel or AMD cpu is actually consuming energy *much* above the "idle" for cirtain period of time, even if they have already finished the task. You need a consumption graph to analyse that...
If I recall correctly, there was a good review of power/task at hexxus some way ago, comparing now old intel corei660 and athlon II x4/phenom II x4.
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Originally posted by crazycheese View PostYou approximate the parameter values, yet give exact result? For example, you won't find energy under 0.25 now and under 0.3 very soon (due to ecology tax).
minimal rate - 0.10637 Euro
maximal rate - 0.21161 Euro
It is possible that prices are higher in other countries.
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Originally posted by necro-lover View Postno its even more you can have unlocked cpu+virtualization+ECC non-reg ram.
Hence not that long ago we got the "Oooh, Fast!" NetBurst designs, and the "clone proof" IA64 designs. Because the Core-X line has been hammering AMD to the edge of existence, we're now seeing "revenue maximizing" stunts like disabling on-chip features unless you've paid extra. Kick AMD all you like, but if they're gone Intel has proven multiple times that, absent meaningful competition, they wander way off-target and we the customers lose. I don't know if ARM will provide proper competition for Intel in the future, at least partly because Microsoft has managed to lock down ARM-based hardware to be Windows-only, preventing it from growing into a true general-purpose platform.
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Originally posted by bug77 View PostThe problems is, best case scenario they'll regain performance parity with Ivy Bridge. Intel will be releasing Haswell anyway.
It's hard to come up with competitive products when profit remains elusive. Not to mention the engineers AMD plans to lay off. Managers by themselves do not build much
It's pretty clear AMD can't beat intel at its own game. What they need is another revolutionary idea like when they chose to up IPC rather than MHz or when they cleverly adding 64bit capability to 32bit CPUs. But these ideas are the stuff of legends...
We'll see.
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losers
I can't believe some of the dorks that haunt this forum with nothing better to do than trash the particular brand name that they don't worship. Is your life so meaningless and pathetic (you don't have to answer we know already) that this is your contribution to humanity? No wonder you're alone and your keyboard is sticky.
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