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Hey Michael, I just found out my Core i5-12400 had AVX512 enabled by default in the BIOS that shipped with my motherboard (which was the latest BIOS until about a week ago). I posted about it in the Gentoo forums here. In your testing, did the Core i5-12400 have AVX512 enabled by the motherboard by default?
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I really like these geometric means of subcategories, that's a great way to present the information.
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Originally posted by Sonadow View Post
That's correct. Vista from 2007 could do that. Multiple crashes and recoveries over a short span of time is usually a telltale sign that the GPU is starting to get messed up.
In Linux you couldn't even tell whether a system lockup was caused by a GPU driver crash unless you got lucky and the system managed to log the first few lines of a panic in dmesg before the system locked up. Most of the time a panic caused by a GPU driver crash that was triggered by faulty hardware doesn't even have time to write the kernel log before it locks up, so you can keep searching in var/log/kern.* and never find anything.
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Originally posted by user1 View Post
And yeah, it's a shame that Linux still can't recover from GPU crashes. I heard Windows Vista already could recover from GPU crashes.
In Linux you couldn't even tell whether a system lockup was caused by a GPU driver crash unless you got lucky and the system managed to log the first few lines of a panic in dmesg before the system locked up. Most of the time a panic caused by a GPU driver crash that was triggered by faulty hardware doesn't even have time to write the kernel log before it locks up, so you can keep searching in var/log/kern.* and never find anything.
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Originally posted by Sonadow View Post
Have you ever had the on-die iGPU fail before?
Just because it's very unlikely to fail doesn't mean it won't fail.
Originally posted by Sonadow View PostI've once had to buy an entry level Nvidia dGPU to use because the on-die Intel iGPU started artefacting and triggering driver crashes and restarts in Windows and outright just locks Linux up (even until today Linux cannot recover from gpu driver crashes).
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Originally posted by Sonadow View Post
Have you ever had the on-die iGPU fail before?
Just because it's very unlikely to fail doesn't mean it won't fail.
I've once had to buy an entry level Nvidia dGPU to use because the on-die Intel iGPU started artefacting and triggering driver crashes and restarts in Windows and outright just locks Linux up (even until today Linux cannot recover from gpu driver crashes).
While of course it's likely that iGPU's may die, I think these cases are less common than dGPU's dying.
And yeah, it's a shame that Linux still can't recover from GPU crashes. I heard Windows Vista already could recover from GPU crashes.
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Originally posted by user1 View Post
More like you get home, turn on your PC, your dGPU suddenly dies and then you remember that you don't have an iGPU.
Just because it's very unlikely to fail doesn't mean it won't fail.
I've once had to buy an entry level Nvidia dGPU to use because the on-die Intel iGPU started artefacting and triggering driver crashes and restarts in Windows and outright just locks Linux up (even until today Linux cannot recover from gpu driver crashes).
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Originally posted by user1 View Post
More like you get home, turn on your PC, your dGPU suddenly dies and then you remember that you don't have an iGPU.
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Originally posted by birdie View Post
Maybe it's a perfect match: an underdog OS and an underdog CPU company (even despite the fact that AMD has stopped competing price-wise since Zen 2).
And that's why it's so immensely satisfying to trigger such people by simply pointing out the blunt facts and watching the preposterous lies and misinformation they use to try and dispute the facts.
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I really like the format/layout of the article and the focus on geomean of sub-suites vs individual tests. Past articles sometime felt excessively editorialized because you can’t possibly put all 100+ tests and so which ones where shown exposed the article to accusations of bias.
the only question I have is how the final geomean is computed. Does it weigh each test equally or is it a geomean of geomeans? I can see arguments both ways, but I do not that if you have more individual tests for web benchmarks then those could be over represented in the final geomean vs a geomean of geomeans.
Jesus, too many means. You knowhwatimean?
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