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Originally posted by Sonadow View Post
Typical remark of someone who has never done so and assumes that takes no skill. Go ahead, build something big like LibreOffice and see everything for yourself. You aren't going to even get past the first compiler error because you don't have the knowledge to do so.
And try telling Gentoo users that compiling their stuff is pointless. Go right ahead. You have shown nothing except your own ignorance and incompetence outside of building a kernel and running pretty benchmarks.
If you compile from source for debian, without fine tuning flags, you achieve nothing in terms of performance -- surely it remains an interesting thing to do from a knowledge POV.
BTW, Debian is known for been conservative and favor stability. You should try another distro for desktop usage (or heavily modify it with specific kernels)
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Sonadow
I compile all the time. If you think that's skillful, it's not. It takes competence, that's all.
Go put on your resume "Knows how to compile software" and let me know how that works out for you.
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Originally posted by Anux View PostMaybe that was a Debian problem or an I/O-sheduler problem? Especially old Hardware runs generally smoother on Linux (provided there is proper GPU support, but my Debian times are long gone and I can only speak vor Arch Linux.
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Originally posted by Sonadow View Post
I have been running Debian with a custom-built kernel and Mesa on my Apollo Lake Atom laptop for the last three years.
Two weeks ago I threw Debian out and put Windows 11 on it. The difference in performance is immediately noticeable. Web browsers and other heavy applications like productivity suites no longer randomly stall for a minute when scrolling through >20 tabs or multiple pages in a docx file loaded with lots of images, photos and tables.
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Originally posted by perpetually high View Post
And what skill does it take to compile?.
And try telling Gentoo users that compiling their stuff is pointless. Go right ahead. You have shown nothing except your own ignorance and incompetence outside of building a kernel and running pretty benchmarks. Some 'enthusiast'.Last edited by Sonadow; 21 December 2021, 06:36 AM.
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Originally posted by mdedetrich View Post
This may be true but it doesn't have anything to do with the scheduler because Windows 10 (which doesn't have the new scheduler specifically for Alder lake) also beats Linux, this seems to be more due to processor support
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Originally posted by Sonadow View Post
Right, because you have nothing to argue?
Fact remains that for all the benchmarks Michael has done about Linux having better performance over Windows, they simply don't carry forward to real-world computing. Till now nobody can provide a reasonable explanation as to why Windows boots, launches programs and generally respond to application inputs faster than Linux on the same hardware, especially on low-power hardware like Atoms.
They do not carry over .... uhm, then why are you here commenting/reading benchmark articles? move on, nothing of interest for you
Go and buy whatever cpu you want/you get hooked to.
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Originally posted by Sonadow View PostAnd unlike a certain person who claims to be a power luser and an 'enthusiast' yet doesn't even know how to compile the X server, Mesa or a web browser and its dependencies and only has enough intelligence to use prebuilt binaries, I have been building my own kernels and drivers and recompiling the applications I use on Linux for the past 13 years for maximum optimization.
And what skill does it take to compile? Are you even writing the code? That's where the complexity is. Not figuring out how to compile it. I really just have no respect for you or your existence. Take the best of care. I decided to quote you to expose you, because you are a sham and a fraud. Having said that, take the best of care. And do way, way better.
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Originally posted by MadCatX View Post
That sounds like an OOM problem that the multigeneration LRU patches might alleviate. Did you try that?
Lastly, I never perform in-place upgrades. The upgrade from Buster to Bullseye was done with a full format and install with Debian's netinst image.Last edited by Sonadow; 21 December 2021, 06:23 AM.
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