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Originally posted by QuImUfu View Post
Where? How? The newest product available from Ampere is the eMAG that gets stomped by EPYC, power9 and Intel. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pa...ome-power9-arm They **announced** an product that according to their own (integer only) benchmarks barley reaches current EPYC performance, but will be up against EPYC's next generation.
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Originally posted by PerformanceExpert View Post
Here for example? EPYC 3 is said to be a 10% throughput gain, nothing amazing, and certainly not enough to compete with the 128-core Altra Max.
Amperes side says you can only pre-order (that links to the site you linked) or get an evaluation sample: https://amperecomputing.com/ampere-d...tion-programs/
Sadly these evaluation samples require an NDA, otherwise Phoronix probably would already have proven you wrong and that Altra is a joke compared to EPYC in most workloads.
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Originally posted by QuImUfu View Post
Amperes side says you can only pre-order (that links to the site you linked) or get an evaluation sample: Sadly these evaluation samples require an NDA, otherwise Phoronix probably would already have proven you wrong and that Altra is a joke compared to EPYC in most workloads.
We have benchmarks on the prior generations of ampere chips and they were not weak in all workloads vs EPYC. We can except the results to be mixed and we can expect EPYC 3 not to win all the time against Altra.
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Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
Keep in mind that benchmark is against EPYC Naples, not Rome. Rome performs much better then Naples in performance and power efficiency. And Altra will have to compete with Milan. They more or less admitted that they won't be competing for the performance crown in their performance slide, placing their product minimally faster then Naples, while Milan is said to be ~15% faster.
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Originally posted by QuImUfu View PostFor some workloads that might be true.
Keep in mind that benchmark is against EPYC Naples, not Rome. Rome performs much better then Naples in performance and power efficiency. And Altra will have to compete with Milan. They more or less admitted that they won't be competing for the performance crown in their performance slide, placing their product minimally faster then Naples, while Milan is said to be ~15% faster.
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Originally posted by QuImUfu View PostFor some workloads that might be true.
Keep in mind that benchmark is against EPYC Naples, not Rome. Rome performs much better then Naples in performance and power efficiency. And Altra will have to compete with Milan. They more or less admitted that they won't be competing for the performance crown in their performance slide, placing their product minimally faster then Naples, while Milan is said to be ~15% faster.
Basically EPYC 3 will not completely beat the older generation of the Ampere stuff at everything so we cannot expect EPYC.3 to always be the best choice over the Altra. We are going to have to wait for Altra to be tapped out to know how often it wins and that is Q4 this year for the 80 core. Yes most vendors have benchmarking restrictions before final production run in the way Ampere is no different.
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