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The ClearFog ARM ITX Workstation Performance Is Looking Very Good
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Originally posted by milkylainen View PostThe 2160A is the ultra-highend QorIQ (Layerscape) for ARM platforms. It is not surprising that it performs well.
I am glad NXP decided to ditch a successor of the overly complex and non-generic PPC T4240.
The T4240's non-existent data prefetcher made it horrible in single threaded performance.
That issue is handily fixed by the A72 cores. That being said, the 2160A has been in the works since 2015 something...
The churn rate for NXP is way to slow. As a top-end CPU offering, the A72s needs to be replaced already.
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Originally posted by wizard69 View PostThat is very interesting. Frankly some of those numbers are so good you should have an AMD or Intel board in the graph mix. This is obviously a different class of performance.
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Originally posted by boeroboy View PostThis is too cool. Great NAS box if you're lucky enough to have 10gbe. Any word on power consumption?
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Originally posted by elatllat View PostOdd that the SBCs I would compare that to are not on the list;
ROCKPro64(RK3399), ODROID-N2(S922X)
and because they are 1/10 the price I'd expect a $/performance cluster comparison.
The low end ARM64 SBC is not really the market we are aiming for. This is a true workstation class SOC and Motherboard. This is a platform with enough power / storage / memory that can be used as a full time desktop if desired. Fire up a couple of VMS, some containers and whatever else is needed for an ARM developer needs. Options like 64GB of memory, 10Gbps Ethernet, NVME, and lots of SATA storage all put this in a class above most other ARM64 boards being produced.
I would also note for people concerned about it using Cortex-A72 cores vs newer models. The N2 has Cortex-A73's at only 100Mhz slower clock and in the single threaded GraphicsMagick tests you see a huge performance difference to the favour of the A72 Cores. This is because they are designed for a high power configuration, with a much better cache, and much faster memory.Last edited by linux4kix; 02 June 2019, 05:14 AM.
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Originally posted by DoMiNeLa10 View Post2019 is THE year of Linux on ARM (…) more and more chips have mainline support
SBSA is a standard meant to solve this, and this will hopefully be the first consumer board to be SBSA compliant.
When multiple boards can boot the same OS image, we are at the year of Linux on ARM.
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This brings up a question; is there a recommended distro for this board? Also does that distro ship with the LLVM/CLang suite of tools.
I know now there are several distros shipping ARM variants but there is a lot of variability in ARM hardware so it is easy to see that one might be better than another.
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I aim to please. https://openbenchmarking.org/result/...JONA-190421156
The low end ARM64 SBC is not really the market we are aiming for. This is a true workstation class SOC and Motherboard. This is a platform with enough power / storage / memory that can be used as a full time desktop if desired. Fire up a couple of VMS, some containers and whatever else is needed for an ARM developer needs. Options like 64GB of memory, 10Gbps Ethernet, NVME, and lots of SATA storage all put this in a class above most other ARM64 boards being produced.
I would also note for people concerned about it using Cortex-A72 cores vs newer models. The N2 has Cortex-A73's at only 100Mhz slower clock and in the single threaded GraphicsMagick tests you see a huge performance difference to the favour of the A72 Cores. This is because they are designed for a high power configuration, with a much better cache, and much faster memory.
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Originally posted by wizard69 View PostThis brings up a question; is there a recommended distro for this board? Also does that distro ship with the LLVM/CLang suite of tools.
I know now there are several distros shipping ARM variants but there is a lot of variability in ARM hardware so it is easy to see that one might be better than another.
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So comparing the numbers here to some ryzen 1700 on the open benchmarking size, it seems this board+SoC has 50-75% of the performance.
Given that both perf is lower and price is higher (than combined ryzen + motherboard), what is the target market of this?
Main thing I'm seeing is that power might be lower and that requires less cooling (The board is shown without fan, which might point to that direction)
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