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  • #91
    Would not be the worst idea to make public beta drivers then.


    • #92
      can you imagine the whining when a beta driver crashs boxes?


      • #93
        Hi Luther,

        I couldn't get X to load with catalyst 9.10 and my 5750. Although the stream beta drivers work, so you could try them. There was also a hack mentioned by kano to disable the testing overlay relating to the stream beta drivers in another thread here. Unfortunately I only have the one monitor and can't test dual or triple head for you.

        Cheers, Evan.


        • #94

          That's the "normal" case anyway when you test new features - even on "stable" drivers. Nothing new to ATI "beta" drivers. Nv "beta" drivers have in most cases production quality however.


          • #95
            If AMD released public beta drivers, I can think of a few non-technical reasons why this could go wrong:
            1) If a bug is there, it will raise undue complaints even if it's long fixed in internal builds.
            2) Support - AMD will have to deal with more people wanting support for a beta driver, even if AMD takes the stance of not supporting it properly. It won't stop people trying to get support, and may slow down driver development in general.
            3) Support additional: AMD will have a harder time tracking down customer problems if they're using beta builds. It's better to have defined milestone builds to help sort out problems rather than going over several beta builds with various changes to find a problem that may no longer exist.


            • #96
              Did you ever get fglrx SUPPORT? You get one driver per month, no matter if it works or not.


              • #97
                Bridgman hangs around the forums, and he does have an interest when there's proper complaints of it not working.

                I'm not a workstation customer.

                As I mentioned, not much will stop people contacting AMD trying to get support, and dealing with that could slow things down.


                • #98
                  It never happend that you got a new driver when something did not work as "full" release. Only U managed to get prerelease drivers which they only published "half", no real original installer file was available.


                  • #99
                    Traditional software development; BETTER! FASTER! RUSH IT OUT THE DOOR NOW!!!!! (took 20% of total development time and costs)

                    Ohhhhhhhhhhhh shit! It doesn't work... full of bugs. Ten thousand users complain...

                    Fixing the codebase = 80% of total development time and costs.

                    ... *sigh*


                    • The problem with fglrx is that it lacks about 2-3 month behind in several aspects:

                      a) kernel support
                      b) xorg support
                      c) hardware support

                      Nv tries to fix all 3 issues with new drivers in a way it does not take so long. There you get often kernel suport even for eary rc kernels, ati thinks they are forced to wait till the kernel is stable before they are allowed to download and test it. same applies for xorg. For hardware support issues the point is that most hardware basically works, but they tend to annoy people whereever they can using watermarks. Use a beta mark in logfile or as splash, thats really enough! To remove all watermarks look there:

                      Technical support and discussion of the open-source AMD Radeon graphics drivers.