System76 To Begin Their Own Product Design & Manufacturing

[damonlynch]

I wish Jason DeRose and his colleagues all the best. I hope it works out for them.

[Niarbeht]

Uh, no, I think you mean the experts were proven wrong. The Tesla roadster was smaller inside than a Geo Metro, and the electric range was terrible. The build quality was questionable, and they didn't sell many of them. Of the ones sold, very few are even still on the road. Tesla Motors has been losing money every year since their inception, they don't have a single profitable product. That's not to say they haven't developed some interesting technology along the way, but if we're going to evaluate them in terms of competitiveness and profitability on the open market, they fail miserably. The only reason the company hasn't gone out of business, is the backing of their billionaire owner, media hype, and their stock market cap i.e. individual investors.

Factually incorrect. Have you looked at their reports?

Tesla is profitable but for one thing: capital expenditure.

Tesla is losing money because they are spending more money than they have in order to build factories to build more of the things they make because the things they make are profitable.

The reason that their stock value is so high is because of the previous sentence. We haven't seen that state of being in a car company in a long, long time. Tesla is an investor's dream come true because a little bit of money in today has a very good chance of being a huge amount of money out later.

http://www.marketwatch.com/investing...sla/financials

$7 Billion in sales
$5.43 Billion in Cost of Goods
$2.2 Billion in Capital Expenditure (building infrastructure to build more goods to sell)

Read the financials and understand them before you go posting blatant falsehoods again.

[Degra]

https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/index.php

Bad thing if you are European buyer is you need to pay additional import taxes so the price of their computers goes up, but I would consider a well designed and powerful 17.3" laptop, sleek too, they should hire some developers to recreate Unity in QT on Wayland and I would buy it even if I need to pay extra taxes or modify heavily existing Gnome or KDE to make it Unity-like. If they want their computers to stand out they also need a desktop that stands out, also proper theming and all that goes with a custom desktop.

If you're from somewhere close to Germany, there's also this German Linux PC/Laptop manufacturer: https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/index.php
Shipping within the EU, so no import taxes.
The online shop itself seems to be in German only, however you can configure the Laptops to a great extent, including which keyboard layout they use. German, English, Spanish, French, Italian, Swedish keyboard layouts are all available.

[nomadewolf]

It would be a good start if they could propose different keyboard layouts !

I'd like an option with AMD cards instead of Nvidia...

[kyrios]

It would be a good start if they could propose different keyboard layouts !

[Victoria0129]

This is exciting news, I am really looking forward to what they come up with. I've recommended a lot of people buy from System76 and they have been extremely happy with their purchases. Glad to see they're branching out some. I'd like to see coreboot support myself on their computers but hey, I am just happy they are making the move in this direction.

[drohm]

Things I want:

• Open source UEFI firmware
• Support for coreboot.
• Open hardware. Schemata, wiring diagrams and CAD drawings for the PCB and the chassis.
• USB Type-C.
  • Charging over USB Type-C.

They've already started using USB-C. On their Oryx Pro laptop it has two USB-C ports.

[r1348]

Bad thing if you are European buyer is you need to pay additional import taxes so the price of their computers goes up, but I would consider a well designed and powerful 17.3" laptop, sleek too, they should hire some developers to recreate Unity in QT on Wayland and I would buy it even if I need to pay extra taxes or modify heavily existing Gnome or KDE to make it Unity-like. If they want their computers to stand out they also need a desktop that stands out, also proper theming and all that goes with a custom desktop.

Check http://www.santech.eu out, they mostly have the same hardware as System76 (as in Clevo and Compal rebrands), they sell sans-OS, and being from the EU you won't get import taxes.

[M@GOid]

I hope they release things that are easy to service. Nothing glued, nothing soldered in the motherboard (except for ultrathins, but these are other people's problem), easy to open panels and, for the love of God, don't make me remove the motherboard to be able to clean the cooler. In other words, enterprise grade machines. Try to steal consumers of the T-series Thinkpads. Remember: Thinkpads have awful quality screens. There is something easy to gain on them.

Oh, and we like nice keyboards and touchpads (no clickpad crap), nothing of that shallow travel, bouncing keyboards crap so "popular" with other vendors.

[bug77]

Bad thing if you are European buyer is you need to pay additional import taxes so the price of their computers goes up, but I would consider a well designed and powerful 17.3" laptop, sleek too, they should hire some developers to recreate Unity in QT on Wayland and I would buy it even if I need to pay extra taxes or modify heavily existing Gnome or KDE to make it Unity-like. If they want their computers to stand out they also need a desktop that stands out, also proper theming and all that goes with a custom desktop.

Be thankful they actually ship to Europe. Many retailers don't.