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Originally posted by Vim_User View PostSo you just hopped from a discussion about Linux drivers to your hardware working on Windows? Wow, great job. Guess what, Tomb Raider works just fine on Windows for me too, but my point was neither aimed at Windows nor at hardware.
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Originally posted by alexThunder View PostWow, great job. You just ignored most of my post(s).
I hope that Valve will do as always and rather go for quality, so that they choose Nvidia because of better drivers. Just look at the still not solved bugs in the AMD drivers, reported a long time ago and even in the beta phase of drivers (seems nobody told AMD developers that beta phases are meant to fix bugs). This is something that can't be tolerated on a console, so actually in my eyes AMD is a no-go for a Linux based console, unless they change their behavior in that matter.Last edited by Vim_User; 08 March 2013, 02:46 PM.
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Originally posted by Vim_User View PostJust because they are pointless. I never had one problem with Nvidia drivers under Linux, with AMD I have, so what? It is in the Linux community a well known fact that the Nvidia drivers simply have a better quality, so your arguing doesn't bring anything.
I hope that Valve will do as always and rather go for quality, so that they choose Nvidia because of better drivers. Just look at the still not solved bugs in the AMD drivers, reported a long time ago and even in the beta phase of drivers (seems nobody told AMD developers that beta phases are meant to fix bugs). This is something that can't be tolerated on a console, so actually in my eyes AMD is a no-go for a Linux based console, unless they change their behavior in that matter.
However, just keep on posting how you want the world to be and then continue wondering, how companies can be so silly not to do what you think is right. Maybe one day you'll find out that you're not as smart as you expected ;P
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Originally posted by brosis View Post
Intel APUs rock the world with opensource driver!
If I were Valve, I would definetily go Intel, no exceptions!
*Side note Intel WTF are you going to release a discrete card so Linux users have an out?
Originally posted by F i L View PostHonestly, kinda hoping for an AMD APU setup, for two reason:
1) APU's use unified memroy, and it could be GDDR5 (fast!) like PS4 both for graphics and physics, etc. The potential of 6+ Gb for textures is a very real possibility with that setup, and gives developers a lot of freedom. There's also a lot of fine-tuned optimizations games can make use of there, like direct register passing from the CPUs to the GPU, and vise-versa (great for OpenCL-style GPU calculations).
2) I've been using Catalyst on Linux for over a year now, and while Nvidia generally seems to be better supported and doesn't have as many quirks, my 7850 runs things about as fast as my Windows boot. In full-screen (undirected) mode, there's virtually not difference between Catalyst on Windows and Linux (all the quirks are Mutter or Compiz specific it seems). Moreover, having AMD on SteamBox would give them a much needed commercial incentive to maintain better drivers for Linux in general.
It also needs to be said that SteamBox should attempt to be competitive with PS4 and Xbox Next in terms of hardware and price. Both PS4 & Xbox Next are rumored to include extra (ARM based) "systems chip" for on-the-fly video encoding/decoding and running the internal OS. I think SteamBox will most likely not have those bits to keep the price competitive (since Sony and Microsoft will surely subsidize their products).Last edited by nightmarex; 08 March 2013, 03:26 PM.
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Originally posted by Medallish View PostI think he was refering to the state of AMD's Linux drivers, AMD's hardware is without doubt amongst the best, but yeah their drivers on Linux aren't great. On Windows they in my experience work just as well as nVidia's drivers.
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Originally posted by alexThunder View PostIf it only was about the driver (quality), I'm with you, but I'm afraid they won't be able to compete with PS4 and the next XBox then. Intel GPUs still ain't too powerful and they still didn't reach OpenGL 4.x.
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*Side note Intel WTF are you going to release a discrete card so Linux users have an out?
Also, as Linux user, with an IVB you can play almost all the steam titles at reasonable (1600x900+) resolutions... With Haswell this should perform even better. Are you excited yet?
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