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The GPL and LGPL achieve that Qt is free/libre software, anyone can use Qt, modify it, and create his version if he wants to.
There is only Qt, so Digia never mentions those different products on their website. Every single announcement Digia made only talks about "Qt". If someone has stumbled across something vaguely related, he for sure has read a very, very old announcement inherited from Trolltech.Last edited by Nth_man; 07 January 2014, 06:52 AM.
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I'm a developer and I use Qt extensively, I use it because it's a top-class cross-platform application framework - I also use it because there's nothing that comes close it.
I don't understand all the Digia hate - they're acting as a normal company! Shouldn't those in the FOSS community who vehemently hate CLAs be asking themselves - what happened to the alternatives? Specifically what happened to wxWidgets? It used to have near feature-parity, but now it's virtually unused; in fact a major new version of it was launched recently - to zero fanfare.
Perhaps it's because allowing CLAs struck a happy medium in the licensing of Qt: it made Qt Commercial's existence viable, which it turn funded the vast majority of the development in recent times - hence why it has bounded forward technologically and spread to more and more OSs. What is it about CLAs that people hate so much?
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Originally posted by Honton View PostDo you really believe you can find answer in marketing bullshit downloaded from Digia? You need to look at the license agreements and the Qt Free foundation. It is very clear that both Digia and KDE agrees there is a difference.
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Originally posted by Honton View PostClaiming that free software needs CLA is a fallacy. Qt is nothing more than a MIR that did'nt die at birth.
Originally posted by Honton View PostYou should ask your self if a world without a CLAed tool kit would have produced a less fragmented stack. THAT is true value.
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Originally posted by cbamber85 View PostI don't understand all the Digia hate - they're acting as a normal company! Shouldn't those in the FOSS community who vehemently hate CLAs be asking themselves - what happened to the alternatives? Specifically what happened to wxWidgets? It used to have near feature-parity, but now it's virtually unused; in fact a major new version of it was launched recently - to zero fanfare.
Perhaps it's because allowing CLAs struck a happy medium in the licensing of Qt: it made Qt Commercial's existence viable, which it turn funded the vast majority of the development in recent times - hence why it has bounded forward technologically and spread to more and more OSs.
So for me, the vast majority of Qt development in recent times has been a negative.
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Originally posted by curaga View PostThere's capabilities that you cannot use from C++, but only from QML now I hear.
I was very displeased when QtQuick came in v5, but I've recently started using it for a big project (with a C++ backend), and to be honest I wouldn't go back to the QWidgets library. Each to their own of course, but either way QtQuick/QML isn't going away.
Though I have to say the whole Enginio thing obviously shite. What a waste of time.
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Originally posted by curaga View PostCan't answer for wx since I never used it, but FLTK I do use and it's quite alive. Gtk has been losing momentum, but it too is alive.
I would say Qt has been going in the wrong direction for ages now. It's been gaining bloat, and the dynamicness of v5 is very wrong direction too. Now to write a "proper Qt app" you need to write in three languages: QML, JS, and C++. That's coincidentally two too many. There's capabilities that you cannot use from C++, but only from QML now I hear.
So for me, the vast majority of Qt development in recent times has been a negative.
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Originally posted by erendorn View PostHow a descriptive UI language can be "one two many" language for building a user interface is quite beyond me.
Last year someone had a short talk about various QML use cases at FOSDEM:
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