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Originally posted by nslay View PostSoftware licenses are software developer issues. Why so many software users care so much baffles me. The license does not change the user experience at all.
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Originally posted by brosis View PostI am dead serious bro. I am tired of proprietary bullcrap. I love and appreciate working on and working with libre software. Not same opinion as me? Go to hell (BSD).
So much for your hate of proprietary software.
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Originally posted by intellivision View PostI bet that you don't even run a FOSS only version of Linux.
So much for your hate of proprietary software.
Why should i like proprietary? Sure, I have nothing against developers or companies that create any software, and their income.
Its that only open code and open model create advantages and are immune to many deeper problems that surfaced with proprietary approach.
In fact,even for android I never purchase proprietary software and always go for open solution and then just paypal the money to the creator.
Because, if build my workflow on something that may be easily discontinued and then unrevivable thanks to exclusive ownership rights, it would be a complete money waste.
Not to mention insecurity. Its pretty objective. I don?t hate developers, I just vote with money. I can do it, right?
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Originally posted by nslay View PostBut I'm not the fan boy here ...[
I don't share your black/white view of the software world, and I respect developers' choice of license (whether its proprietary, copyleft or permissive).
I don't know why you assume that a copyleft license somehow encourages proprietary developers to make contributions. It's still the sole discretion of the companies and developers to contribute to a copyleft project.
Further, I don't understand why you assume that a permissive license does not encourage these types of contributions either; this very thread and phoronix article serve as a contradiction to your statement (since launchd was written by Apple).
Software licenses are software developer issues. Why so many software users care so much baffles me. The license does not change the user experience at all.
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Originally posted by Pawlerson View PostIt's has nothing to this discussion. Proprietary licenses are bad for end users and other programmers, while bsd like licenses are bad for bsd licensed software.
For libraries, BSD licensed software is better for developers since it does not add or change terms of the code linked against the library (that's obvious too). Copyleft is only good if you agree with those terms and plan to license your work under the same license. For end-user software, the license doesn't really matter (e.g. Linux, Firefox, FreeBSD, GIMP ... nobody but developers of these applications care about the license).
As the saying goes, you can have any colour as long as it's black.
I was talking about cases when copyleft (GPL) code is being used by proprietary developers. It not only encourages them to make contributions, but indirectly forces them to do so.
Permissive software has a better chance to see action in interesting problems a corporation or government faces. Meanwhile copylefted software is largely ignored when confidentiality is important.
No, it's not a contradiction to my statement, because launchd is Apple project. If it was freebsd project and Apple would support it, it would be the way you have described. It sometimes happens, but very rarely.
The answer is very simple: the license has effect on software that is used by users.
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Originally posted by brosis View PostI run a FOSS only version of Linux, if you don?t count AMD firmware for radeon, that is. Wifi cards, router, printers, scanners, media servers, all run FOSS.
Why should i like proprietary? Sure, I have nothing against developers or companies that create any software, and their income.
Its that only open code and open model create advantages and are immune to many deeper problems that surfaced with proprietary approach.
In fact,even for android I never purchase proprietary software and always go for open solution and then just paypal the money to the creator.
Because, if build my workflow on something that may be easily discontinued and then unrevivable thanks to exclusive ownership rights, it would be a complete money waste.
Not to mention insecurity. Its pretty objective. I don?t hate developers, I just vote with money. I can do it, right?
Why don't you just start writing proprietary software, you're already half way there if you're using it.
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