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2D Performance Is Improving For Ubuntu 13.10 XMir
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Some test where actually (a tiny bit) better than pure Xorg.
This surprise me a bit. Is there anyone that can explain how
that is possible?
Good to see this improvement though. Actually I never believed
we would get this good before 13.10.
Originally posted by pandev92 View Postxmir and xwayland are completely different, what a shame of comparition
xmir = full xorg run the DE
xwayland = run only legacy apps on a MIR DE
When on a pure Mir DE (Unity 8) XMir will have the same use
as XWayland.
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Originally posted by pandev92 View Postxmir and xwayland are completely different, what a shame of comparition
xmir = full xorg run the DE
xwayland = run only legacy apps on a MIR DE
XD u made my day troll.
xmir = full xorg DE runs on xmir
xwayland = run only (rootless) legacy apps on a (Wayland!) DE
i correct it for u
next time be less fanboy and think before you write, also this means nothing...
there will be mir+(rootless) Xmir on unity 8.
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Originally posted by MrTheSoulz View PostLmao, you are so obsesed about mir u actualy said xwayland needs mir to run.
XD u made my day troll.
xmir = full xorg DE runs on xmir
xwayland = run only (rootless) legacy apps on a (Wayland!) DE
i correct it for u
next time be less fanboy and think before you write, also this means nothing...
there will be mir+(rootless) Xmir on unity 8.
and I'm not a fanboy , I prefer osx against linux , I am more neutral than you.
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Originally posted by MrTheSoulz View Postthere will be mir+(rootless) Xmir on unity 8.
It is Canonical, you should believe what they promise only when you can actually see that it happens.
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Originally posted by Vim_User View PostYou should correct that to "it is planned to have Unity 8 running on Mir+rootless XMir in 14.10". Just like that already was planned for 14.04 (didn't work out, as it seems). Just like Unity should already run on Wayland. Just like all of that running on the Ubuntu TV.
It is Canonical, you should believe what they promise only when you can actually see that it happens.
also unity 8 wont run on wayland unless they do a MirWayland layer like Xwayland...
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Originally posted by pandev92 View Post...Mhhh this was an error, the only troll here, is you! stop to say shit junior member
and I'm not a fanboy , I prefer osx against linux , I am more neutral than you.
sorry havent slept for 2 days misread.
also im a neutral here i use windows for my main OS and ubuntu for tests untill crap like this gets fixed :P
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Originally posted by MrTheSoulz View PostSince ubuntu 13.10 is running on Xmir wich in turn is running on mir, is it possivel to make fullscreen games bypass Xmir and talk direcly to mir?
that would alow us to have games using native mir with better performance then X
Originally posted by pandev92 View Postxwayland = run only legacy apps on a MIR DE
Originally posted by TheOne View Postwell it seems for now that xmir will be more backward compatible with legacy X applications than xwayland is right now
You are right in that xmir is rooted, but I guess that will help on testing/improving xmir so when the time comes to run rootless it's performance will be top notch.
Originally posted by Pajn View PostSome test where actually (a tiny bit) better than pure Xorg.
This surprise me a bit. Is there anyone that can explain how that is possible?
This will only happen in 13.10 so that Mir can be tested early.
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Originally posted by mrugiero View PostYou base this claim in what? Performance wise, you *might* be right, but I didn't see anything that support any claim on compatibility.
But if you analyze the development cycle of canonical they are first focusing on having the best they can from XMir, then they will focus on pure mir+unity8, so you can deduce that backward compatibility for X applications is going to be better with XMir than XWayland as it has been shown already, thats my opinion, no hard evidence to back it up, just analyzing the momentum
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Originally posted by TheOne View PostWell, there was an article some time ago on phoronix of a guy that did some wayland benchmarks and wasn't able to run any games (or something like that), and even segfaulted running X applications, of-course the test were using XWayland in rootless mode (the only mode supported by it). So for now XMir looks superior to XWayland, but XMir is running with X as root so end results may change when unity 8 is ready and XMir also runs rootless.
But if you analyze the development cycle of canonical they are first focusing on having the best they can from XMir, then they will focus on pure mir+unity8, so you can deduce that backward compatibility for X applications is going to be better with XMir than XWayland as it has been shown already, thats my opinion, no hard evidence to back it up, just analyzing the momentum
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