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  • #71
    Originally posted by BO$$ View Post
    But if this trend continues and idiotic companies and idividual start screwing Canonical then Ubuntu will die and Linux will die along with it. Again, Ubuntu == Linux. With the current anti Canonical attitude you can all start moving your stuff from Ubuntu to Windows. Because there is no chance for Linux except through Canonical. In 5 years, with the current attitude, you will all run Windows 8 and like it. Bill Gates might finally win and take everything.
    Here we go again I thought this clown had finally gone away. RedHat == Linux, Suse == Linux, Ubuntu == an unsustainable project with no real direction propped up by a multi millionaire. If Canonical really wanted to make a difference they would pick one thing and do it well, not try to do everthing at once resulting in low quality all round.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Spacefish View Post
      I think its a great move by Intel! Canonical did a lot of shit recently..

      - They started Unity, big mistake! First of all, they have to update/patch the Gnome packages all the time, also the amazon advertisments are really creappy
      - They use upstart instead of systemd, just because their devs developed it. Everyone else uses systemd

      all this forking and shit wont help the community, and they have a lot of maintenance burden. And they just stay with the old version if it works, most of the time... Guess its a nice inovation blocker...

      No one really uses Unity, Gnome 3 or LXDE is used more widely...

      Would love to se a .deb based Distribution with just plain GNOME 3! (maybe mint would be great)
      the porn ad's?
      upstart is using parts of systemd lol @ upstart
      you know Canonical it taking a 10mil $$ a year lost in the UK alone trying to get in the phone market

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      • #73
        I am worried about the controversial between Mir and Wayland.
        Competion isn't bad if the best will win at the end.
        But it seems to me that intel didn't want competition...

        Hopefully Canonical want suffer too much if the loose the competition....
        I didn't know another distribution which is as userfriendly as ubuntu

        Another fear is that a Ubuntu is linked togehter with linux gaming...

        What actually is the difference between Mir and Wayland?

        Originally posted by thegeek6 View Post
        I don't feel AMD is innovating much though lately.
        What do you expect of a company which suffer(ed) from intels curruptions for many years?

        Originally posted by Spacefish View Post
        No one really uses Unity, Gnome 3 or LXDE is used more widely...
        I use unity combined with cairo-dock.
        Last edited by jokergermany.de.vu; 07 September 2013, 07:15 PM.

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        • #74
          I'd have more respect for Intel if they just said, "Yeah we don't want to spend money to maintain that in our tree."

          Instead they came out with this insane political statement about how they don't want to "condone" certain "courses of action". What a judgmental load of crap. If consumers lived by that standard then we wouldn't be buying Intel anything after all the dirt they've soiled themselves with in the past. The hypocrisy is amazing.

          But as others have pointed out, this is a danger of open source that has to be navigated carefully: the politics. Especially those of big companies like Google, Intel, RH, etc. Not to mention the prevalent Asperger's that seems to infect much of the "Linux community".

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          • #75
            Originally posted by jokergermany.de.vu View Post
            I am worried about the controversial between Mir and Wayland.
            Competion isn't bad if the best will win at the end.
            But it seems to me that intel didn't want competition...
            Hopefully Canonical want suffer too much if the loose the competition....
            I didn't know another distribution which is as userfriendly as ubuntu
            Another fear is that a Ubuntu is linked togehter with linux gaming...
            What actually is the difference between Mir and Wayland?
            What do you expect of a company which suffer(ed) from intels curruptions for many years?
            I use unity combined with cairo-dock.
            Dont fear when unity was realeased Linux Mint became the 4th most used desktop world wide and btw what Competion? mir is a really bad joke played on linux users
            "the difference between Mir and Wayland" hmm Wayland kicks ass and Mir is shit
            "Another fear is that a Ubuntu is linked togehter with linux gaming..." na Debian Mint Arch openSUSE or really any linux can take it's place any day of the week we don't even need ubuntu at all
            "I use unity combined with cairo-dock" i'm sorry
            "But it seems to me that intel didn't want competition..." ???
            "I didn't know another distribution which is as userfriendly as ubuntu " i think Manjaro is more user friendly than ubuntu and has steam preinstalled
            "What do you expect of a company which suffer(ed) from intels curruptions for many years?" Canonical is super corrupt

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            • #76
              Originally posted by johnc View Post
              I'd have more respect for Intel if they just said, "Yeah we don't want to spend money to maintain that in our tree."

              Instead they came out with this insane political statement about how they don't want to "condone" certain "courses of action". What a judgmental load of crap. If consumers lived by that standard then we wouldn't be buying Intel anything after all the dirt they've soiled themselves with in the past. The hypocrisy is amazing.

              But as others have pointed out, this is a danger of open source that has to be navigated carefully: the politics. Especially those of big companies like Google, Intel, RH, etc. Not to mention the prevalent Asperger's that seems to infect much of the "Linux community".
              its fully as hell when you Mir fanboys was bashing all over Wayland and now intel said Canonical can fuck off all of you fanboys get so pissy cry a little more i love to see them tears

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              • #77
                Originally posted by LinuxGamer View Post
                its fully as hell when you Mir fanboys was bashing all over Wayland and now intel said Canonical can fuck off all of you fanboys get so pissy cry a little more i love to see them tears
                I have no intention of using Mir so I have no idea how I'm a fanboy. Maybe you're the fanboy?

                And I stand by what I said... the only one acting childish in this instance is Intel. And the ones crying and throwing a hissy fit over Mir were the Wayland fanboys, which was a completely ridiculous response.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by johnc View Post
                  I have no intention of using Mir so I have no idea how I'm a fanboy. Maybe you're the fanboy?

                  And I stand by what I said... the only one acting childish in this instance is Intel. And the ones crying and throwing a hissy fit over Mir were the Wayland fanboys, which was a completely ridiculous response.
                  you know Canonical contributed only 0.1 per cent to the kernel you call all these big player bad but they help linux out more then any one will ever know
                  you're trying hard to make intel look like the bad guys but Canonical is the one who back stabbed them

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                  • #79
                    The problem is easy: is Mir one-distro solution? YES
                    Should be one-distro solution merged upstream? NO.
                    End of story.
                    The source file are open so you can apply patch downstream, right?
                    Perfect! Apply the patches downstream and bye bye.
                    They have created Mir only to control the display server/compositor, no other reason, so why Intel should care less to maintain it?
                    Hey canonical, do you like play alone? Then play alone and enjoy it!

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by valeriodean View Post
                      The problem is easy: is Mir one-distro solution? YES
                      Should be one-distro solution merged upstream? NO.
                      End of story.
                      The source file are open so you can apply patch downstream, right?
                      Perfect! Apply the patches downstream and bye bye.
                      They have created Mir only to control the display server/compositor, no other reason, so why Intel should care less to maintain it?
                      Hey canonical, do you like play alone? Then play alone and enjoy it!
                      100+ to this^
                      the padawan's are soon to be the masters

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