BO$$, you are really a high-level troll. Respect.
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Originally posted by BO$$Mark, as always, is head on. Of course they are repeating the same mistakes. They are the same people. Do you really think people learn from their mistakes? No way. They're gonna do the same thing a bit differently, call it something new and basically get stuck with X.org 2.0. It is good that Canonical sees through the clutter and the garbage and calls a spade a spade. Finally somebody not enamored with that damn Wayland!
Realizing that Wayland is doomed, they just thought on doing their own thing. No need to support Wayland or help them in any way since they already were on a path of self destruction. It would have been much harder to set them straight than to just write Mir. So they chose Mir and let Wayland become 'X 2.0 15 years too late'.
Another example of clear thinking from Canonical and not listening to the unwashed masses. Finally the leadership Linux needed! I'm afraid it might be too late though and Windows will continue to dominate everything since it's good enough and everybody already knows it. Even if Ubuntu becomes the Linux leader, why the hell would you choose Linux over the already installed and working Windows?
xorg is here before windows existed.
The present xorg developers have inhereted that that it is.
You're so blind, that i'm actually spend some time to 'enlighten' you, if you're willing to see the truth:
xorg mistakes are (summarized):
-it does more than one thing (it's not just a display server)
-it uses the network for communication (every window/app knows what happens in all others)
-it has no master/root window (problems with screen savers, for instance)
-server-side decorations (less customizability for apps)
-asynconous design ('lag' effect on internet pages for instance)
Unless i forgot something, these are the problems that make xorg the mess that it is.
The current developers have inherited that and yet they still work on it and tried to make it better. But the mess is so huge, that it can be fixed without breaking everything up.
That's why wayland was created. It breaks everything up, but fixes all the mistakes.
Wayland is:
-minimal (does on thing, and does it well)
-it comunicates from server to window and vice-versa
-it has root window
-client-side decorations
-syncronous designs
You see, since wayland was created by the same heroes that maintain xorg, it has none of it's flaws!
The only 'flaw' that Mark can point out is that wayland doesn't licks canonical's ass.
So, Wayland does everything that MIR does, is usable by Canonical as it is, they just don't want to... They suffer from the 'not created by us' syndrom and they want to force everyone to use Ubuntu, since they have Steam working with them, deals with laptop makers. Ther're making the exact same monoplistic moves as M$!
Wayland is actually better than MIR in these points:
-maintains stable API
-works with any distro/DE
-is not controlled by a single company, but instead is an open project
So get your research and facts straight cause u're blind my friend!!
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Originally posted by BO$$They are a company, they want money, they are vested in it. So they will make Mir work and make it good enough.
They have no interest in self destructing. The fact that Mir is controlled by a company is a plus not a minus. Finally some accountability. I'm sick of these nobody's projects that go nowhere.
The only reason it works with any distro/DE is because those distros and DEs are maintained by assholes who try to sabotage Canonical.
I also trust they know a bit more about OSes than you and have a very good reason why they created Mir and it's not because of NIH.
These guys have a really popular distro, let's give them a little credit, OK? They may know they do.
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Originally posted by BO$$I'm sick of these nobody's projects that go nowhere.
The only reason it works with any distro/DE is because those distros and DEs are maintained by assholes who try to sabotage Canonical.
I also trust they know a bit more about OSes
and have a very good reason why they created Mir
I don't know
//EDIT: BTW, from your link:
"the API for the Mir Client library will always be backwards compatible"Last edited by V10lator; 25 July 2013, 04:26 AM.
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Originally posted by entropy View PostStill no reply to the proposed patches...
How to interprete this?
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