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Is Valve's Steam Client Bad & Damaging For Linux?
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Originally posted by DanLamb View PostIt's one thing to argue the main point of whether Steam and a Steam near-monopoly is good/bad for Linux...
It's another to argue that this site is not advocating for Steam whether that is right or not. You are disagreeing with me but really aren't making a case here. I don't think there is one. Michael Larabel *is* advocating for Steam.
Originally posted by DanLamb View PostThe most reasonable argument that I can think of defending Steam and their presumed monopoly is this: how is Steam's ownership of the game DRM marketplace different from Amazon or Apple having dominant positions over DRM download marketplaces in e-books and music songs?
To counter my own argument:
1) Amazon/Apple did more for books/music. Amazon had arguably the best and cheapest mainstream e-ink reading devices that sold tons. And it had the best physical book store. It's Kindle software is everywhere: PC, Mac, Linux, Android, iOS, and of course Kindle e-ink readers. Sony/Google/Apple don't have that matched. Apple had the overwhelmingly popular iPod for a while. And there are still, pretty good alternatives with Amazon, Google, etc. Users and music publishers really have choice.
2) There isn't this vocal minority advocating so intensely against even basic competition. Look through this thread: Valve loyalists everywhere. I support Valve having the right to compete, but I'd like to see some viable alternatives.
Well, I'm suggesting that alternatives to Steam need more advocacy and publicity. Quietly not using Steam myself doesn't really achieve that goal.
it's also funny how you claim everyone is "Valve loyalists" simply for not agreeing with your points of view ~ while you haven't even considered an "alternative" here ~ maybe they aren't loyalists, but instead maybe your reasoning (or lack thereof) just isn't as convincing as you think.
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Originally posted by DanLamb View Post2) There isn't this vocal minority advocating so intensely against even basic competition. Look through this thread: Valve loyalists everywhere. I support Valve having the right to compete, but I'd like to see some viable alternatives.
Well, I'm suggesting that alternatives to Steam need more advocacy and publicity. Quietly not using Steam myself doesn't really achieve that goal.
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Originally posted by mike4 View PostIt's good for Linux and hopefully draws attention from Logitech and alike which are still to lazy or ignore open source at all.
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Originally posted by FutureSuture View PostBuy Roccat instead. All their drivers are open source.
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No but....
Valve using Linux is the best thing that could have happened to Linux. The only damage is if Valve pulls the plug. If that happens then I think Linux's reputation would take a pretty bad hit. I honestly think it was a good decision. Microsoft has been trying to get gamers off Windows and onto there Xbox platforms and also have been planning on having there own software store in the future. Mac is not to much different. Linux lets Valve worry about the games ( mostly ) and not which direction the OS is going.
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