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Originally posted by johnc View PostI'm not even sure I understand why the open-source video drivers are so important to people, and why so much effort is spent on developing them. The proprietary drivers, though imperfect, are the far better option for almost all people (at least for nvidia, can't speak for all the others). There should really only be a tiny portion of users that use the open-source drivers, maybe for legal reasons or whatever.
There are so many other areas in the linux software domain that need to move forward; it seems like a waste to spend time on these open-source drivers.
1. The people who work on graphics drivers are either doing it because they're volunteers and graphics drivers are the one thing that they are most capable of contributing to, so saying it's a "waste of time" is ridiculous -- it's not like they could put down graphics drivers and then go contribute to GNOME or something. They don't want to, and they're probably not able to, being that their specialty is drivers, not desktop software. As for the paid employees, there are so few of them that they're little more than a drop in the bucket -- AMD doesn't even notice their salaries on their bottom line. Intel might, but they have an entire campus called the Intel Open Source Technology Center, so I think they're a little more invested in FOSS than the average company (so much so that you don't have the proprietary driver option for them).
2. It's not because of "legal reasons" that people want or insist on "open source" graphics drivers; it's because of the very fact that they're free and open source. Some people value the ideals of FOSS so highly that they would rather have less featureful software that is FOSS, rather than more featureful software that is not FOSS. And the feature disparity is measurably closing, too, despite what anyone here might tell you.
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Originally posted by mirv View PostOpen source drivers are crucial for out of the box support, and also track with updates to everything else much easier. I know that especially the former is of great interest with AMD.
I'd would like to have libre (=free as in freedom, in spanish) software too, and sometimes I prefer it, if it isn't a lot less featured.
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For those that don't know, these types of articles do usually promote change in some manner... Whether it be a company acknowledging they need to get with the initial support better for the next-generation of hardware or marketing representatives that are clueless about Linux learning something new. Etc.Michael Larabel
https://www.michaellarabel.com/
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Originally posted by Michael View PostFor those that don't know, these types of articles do usually promote change in some manner... Whether it be a company acknowledging they need to get with the initial support better for the next-generation of hardware or marketing representatives that are clueless about Linux learning something new. Etc.
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Originally posted by Michael View PostFor those that don't know, these types of articles do usually promote change in some manner... Whether it be a company acknowledging they need to get with the initial support better for the next-generation of hardware or marketing representatives that are clueless about Linux learning something new. Etc.
Originally posted by darktama View PostHere's a thought. How about doing something useful about it and filing a bug report[1]? There are other boards with the same chipset as the one you tested (one of which I own), that actually work quite fine. We'd probably learn something useful about fermi in the process of fixing it, that'd actually benefit everyone..
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Originally posted by Plombo View PostMichael, you are missing the point. This article is not promoting change, especially on the Nouveau Fermi side. Ben already acknowledged in his commit message that the initial support probably has some bugs. He even posted in this thread; here it is if you didn't notice:
When the main developer of a software project, in this case the Nouveau kernel driver, says you are not being useful, then you are not promoting change.Michael Larabel
https://www.michaellarabel.com/
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Originally posted by Lynxeye View PostYeah, takes time and generates no income. So why bother doing something useful if you can just bitch around a bit and earn some money from this?Michael Larabel
https://www.michaellarabel.com/
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