NV trying to forcefeed their stupid driver ... Honestly, this does it for me. I'll buy another NVidia card when pigs fly.
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Originally posted by Zhick View Postsince Git users probably don't want to use nvidia because of the ABI changes (as was mentioned in the mailinglist-discussion).
This is not the problem you're making it out to be. If the server ABI
isn't supported, loading the driver will fail and the server will fall
back automatically.
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Some people are saying "nVidia's patch", I wasn't aware it was submitted by an nVidia dev? I'm assuming it was an X.org dev that wrote the patch but others forced it to be removed.
As some others have pointed out it would only default to nVidia driver if it was installed. This makes sense to me as the open source versions are not usable if you require 3D but it probably can be left up to the distro to sort out.
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It also looks like the distro's are getting behind it. Stefan Dirsch from opensuse already replied.
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 04:43:15PM -0700, Aaron Plattner wrote:
> Driver autoconfiguration doesn't impose anything on anybody. It simply
> tries to choose the correct default for the most people.
... which in this case makes perfect sense to me. At the time you've
installed the NVIDIA driver you've messed up your system anyway by
replacing GLX extension and libGL at least. So there's no use in
trying to use nv driver any more. But as usual this is all about
politics, and not about chosing the most appropriate driver the user
would expect to get.
Thanks for the patch, Aaron. I appreciate it. I assume most Linux
distributions will apply it. Silently, probably.
Best regards,
Stefan
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Originally posted by Crunchy View PostSome people are saying "nVidia's patch", I wasn't aware it was submitted by an nVidia dev? I'm assuming it was an X.org dev that wrote the patch but others forced it to be removed.
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Well I would not overrate this patch. It is ok, when the X server would choose nvidia, but as it needs the nvidia kernel module and it is not 100% sure that this is there the xserver would fail - nv would still show a picture. Also the nvidia installer can already write a suitable config file it is highly unlikely that somebody removes it. Thats too special case for me, not really important. I highly doubt that there are so many user questions for that rare case...
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Originally posted by deanjo View PostIt also looks like the distro's are getting behind it. Stefan Dirsch from opensuse already replied.
It's no surprise really. Most distros always look for ways to increase their user base. It's the kernel and X guys that are really anal about this sort of things. I for one don't really care, as long as preference is given to the open source stuff.
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X.org devs are right
The X.org developers are right to reject NVIDIA's unscrupulous tactics. When NVIDIA's blob crashes, as it often does, less knowledgeable users will think it's X.org's fault. The X.org developers are just trying to protect themselves and the users from this hassle. If the user has to modify the xorg.conf file and change the driver names by hand, they'll have a clue that they're using an unsupported blob.
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Originally posted by stan View PostThe X.org developers are right to reject NVIDIA's unscrupulous tactics. When NVIDIA's blob crashes, as it often does, less knowledgeable users will think it's X.org's fault. The X.org developers are just trying to protect themselves and the users from this hassle. If the user has to modify the xorg.conf file and change the driver names by hand, they'll have a clue that they're using an unsupported blob.
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