Joey Hess Resigns From Debian, Unhappy With How It's Changed

[stqn]

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/09/msg01897.html

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user.../msg01058.html

Oh he?s just another systemd fanboy spreading lies then? Good riddance.

[dfx.]

I don't participate but until FreeBSD gets some of its GPGPU infrastructure more current I'll continue to use Linux for the support of professional engineering software [non-GPL].

Listen, you say some anomalous things friend!!! You will go to BSD from Linux??? Very unusual things, is there anyone else in the world like that?

That's a typical freebie douchebag for you, nothing strange, plenty of those around >_< "professional engineering software [non-GPL]"... just fuck yourself professionaly.

[KellyClowers]

I imagine he might be tired of / disheartened by the static going on, but I won't put words in his mouth.

Here are a few posts though:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/09/msg01897.html

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/10/msg01058.html

https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/10/msg00023.html

https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/10/msg00109.html

https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/10/msg00140.html

There really isn't much that needs to be said, other than expressing appreciation for his work. Any more than that runs the risk of just adding more noise.

Thanks for those references.

I am really sad to see Joey go, he is one of the reasons I want to be a DD someday.

[djzort]

People want choices, and resent having things shoved down their throat. Systemd in this case.

[Baconmon]

thanks ian jackson..

[tessio]

To what distro is he moving?

[interested]

People want choices, and resent having things shoved down their throat. Systemd in this case.

In this case it is the opposite; Ian Jackson wants to remove the freedom of the developers and force them to support SysVinit, since there apparently aren't enough volunteers to provide such support. If he wins the GR Debian developers will have no choice in doing what Ian Jackson demands.

What apparently triggered Joey's resignation was yet another bureaucratic party game proposal from Ian Jackson that overruled a developer decision without any real discussion period and AFAIK, without even consulting the developers.

[prodigy_]

Current Debian "Devs" won't listen to users, They won't listen to system admins.

Of course. If they listened to system admins they would never switch to systemd.

[DeeK]

Of course. If they listened to system admins they would never switch to systemd.

Hey! I'm a system admin. I'm fine with systemd, and with Debian switching to it. You are, of course, referring to system admins that don't like systemd. In which case, if Debian listened only to those, their decision would be biased. We wouldn't want that, would we?

Y'know, Debian will still allow you to use sysvinit. Install the systemd-shim package if you want to use Gnome or XFCE. I can't speak for how well it works, since I don't need to use it, but by all accounts, it works pretty well.

[eidolon]

Unrelated to Joey Hess leaving Debian, but Colin Watson is stepping down from the Debian Technical Committee: https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte.../msg00052.html.