Linus Torvalds On GCC 4.9: Pure & Utter Crap

[Luke_Wolf]

So you would question the elderly on the bus about their actions rather than giving up your seat for them out of respect?

Nice guilt trip, and nope. I'm with Dee on this one.
If I'm going to be giving up my seat it's going to be out of pity for their condition not respect.

People should only gain respect by doing something not being something, and living a certain number of years is nothing to be proud of, because all that means is that you weren't stupid or unlucky enough to get yourself killed for ~60 years, which in any first world nation is a trivial task. Additionally someone spending X number of years in a field also is meaningless as the person could very well just be a Wally who managed to stay employed by amassing a lot of "Job Security".

[MartinN]

If I'm going to be giving up my seat it's going to be out of pity for their condition not respect.

Be sure to tell that to the next elderly person you give up your seat to (or yield to in some other way), and I'll be awaiting your response on this thread on how they reacted when you told them - "Here you go sir/ma'am, I pity your condition so I will let you take my seat"

[Luke_Wolf]

Be sure to tell that to the next elderly person you give up your seat to (or yield to in some other way), and I'll be awaiting your response on this thread on how they reacted when you told them - "Here you go sir/ma'am, I pity your condition so I will let you take my seat"

Probably going to be a while, the average one doesn't need it. At least not the ones riding the bus

[dee.]

So you would question the elderly on the bus about their actions rather than giving up your seat for them out of respect?

That's just the baseline respect - or consideration - I give people in general. If someone is in a condition where they need a seat in a bus more than me, I'll give it to them as a courtesy - as long as those people themselves are courteous and polite towards me. Not because they have any extra respect from me, but because that's the decent thing to do in that situation. Regardless of age.

Being old still doesn't afford you any automatic respect. Respect is something that is earned, not some prize for managing to breathe for some number of years.

[MartinN]

baseline respect

Much better than 'all respect is earned'.

I've respect for you as a living breathing human being with certain inalienable rights, though I've never met any one of you in person....

[jimbohale]

The GCC people are likely employed by a company, and if that's the case then it is their job to ensure that a massive fuckup like this doesn't happen that breaks Linux for that many users. I agree with what Linus is saying, you can't just release broken software. You can't do it. It's unacceptable. GCC is not the same project it once was, it is primarily a company-driven project, has everything a proprietary project has (goals, deadlines, personnel structure, etc) and one of those people who's job it was to not fuck it up, fucked it up. It literally breaks Linux. It's legitimately unacceptable. You cannot hold it to the same standards of 20+ years ago when it was this open source project ran by volunteers, because it's not anymore. If I was in Linus' position I would do the same thing, because they need to understand just how badly they fucked up.

[sarmad]

Sane Person vs Linus Torvalds

A sane person:
There is a serious regression in GCC 4.9.

Linus Torvalds:
GCC 4.9 is utter crap.

[MartinN]

A sane person:
There is a serious regression in GCC 4.9.

Linus Torvalds:
GCC 4.9 is utter crap.

So Linus is not sane?

[Marc Driftmeyer]

The GCC people are likely employed by a company, and if that's the case then it is their job to ensure that a massive fuckup like this doesn't happen that breaks Linux for that many users. I agree with what Linus is saying, you can't just release broken software. You can't do it. It's unacceptable. GCC is not the same project it once was, it is primarily a company-driven project, has everything a proprietary project has (goals, deadlines, personnel structure, etc) and one of those people who's job it was to not fuck it up, fucked it up. It literally breaks Linux. It's legitimately unacceptable. You cannot hold it to the same standards of 20+ years ago when it was this open source project ran by volunteers, because it's not anymore. If I was in Linus' position I would do the same thing, because they need to understand just how badly they fucked up.

Yes, RedHat has been steering the ship for GCC for well over a decade.

[Marc Driftmeyer]

I am not an American, but from what I know about US TV series is that many of them take a summer break. You get like 11-13 episodes the first half of the year and another 11-13 episodes after a summer break. Of course shows do get cancelled, too.

Some shows then do not get 20-24 episodes a year, but just about half of it like Game of Thrones. A few can have well over 40 episodes in a year. Best is to find the official web site to a show you like and follow it.

Speaking of Game of Thrones, I have read the most wonderful critic about it written by a porn star. Yes, these people have opinions, too, and she wrote that "GoT is for masochist. Everyone who makes one feel good about oneself gets killed and takes a big shit on your chest."

Truly wonderful.

I hope this helps.

The US Television dynamic has evolved over the past several years to moving away from a 24+ week yearly schedule, to a mixed model. Cable Shows proved that 13 run split seasons allowing for more variety and new series to arrive produced better ratings and reached broader audiences.

USA Networks, TNT, TBS, SyFy, FX/FX/x, AMC, A&E, Bravo, etc., have all gone to a 3 and probably soon 4 13 week rotation.

The old networks of CBS, ABC and NBC have begun to follow in this path. So now, Summer has new shows, instead of perpetual re-runs.