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Originally posted by Artemis3 View PostTo surf the web a complete prevention suite is required, you need to be ready to block not just ads, but trackers, scripts, plugins, cookies, referrer, and even obfuscate your browser to reduce fingerprinting techniques. The most offensive anti-adblocking sites might require some stylish or greasemonkey scripts.
The design doc says to check latest panopticlick for most common values of everything, and send those. Why yes I'm on a Chrome 56 Windows 7 with standard fonts only and the built-in flash plugin there, thanks for asking. My CSS-accessible history shows I visit sport betting sites and NBC, and my geolocation says I live in NYC.
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Originally posted by smitty3268 View PostYeah, they're incredibly annoying until you learn how to avoid them and then they become a non-issue.
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Originally posted by droidhacker View Post(contribution now sent in to support adblock plus...)
To surf the web a complete prevention suite is required, you need to be ready to block not just ads, but trackers, scripts, plugins, cookies, referrer, and even obfuscate your browser to reduce fingerprinting techniques. The most offensive anti-adblocking sites might require some stylish or greasemonkey scripts.
The web became way too hostile to naively use it with a plain vanilla browser, and i can't imagine doing it like that in a mobile.
As for, business models, yadda, yadda; well, if it fails it fails, good riddance and others will come. In fact the amount of people using ad blockers is too small to affect the revenue of a site and its usually the whole idea that might be flawed to begin with.
The solution is very simple but people like Michael are lazy. They have to strike the deals directly, and not use a third parties to serve ads. You serve the ad (from your server and your bandwidth), and it will be seen. Get some sponsors, such as Valve and the german beers, and because you cut the deals, these should bring far more money per view.
Also, a single static ad per page at most. Of course i don't expect any change any time soon, and the site still goes on so its not in any danger the way it is.
I am surprised you had something so horrible in the first place, i could have never guessed you had those links pop up ads in place. You just reinforced the need to defend ourselves against the hostile web. Are you even not blocking ads? You can never honestly answer, or you live in multi megabit land where contacting 30 servers before any page gets displayed, and executing an obscene amount of scripts, plus loading plugins such as flash and java, doesn't bother you and somehow it all loads under 1sec.
Well good luck convincing people to opt in to watch those ads.
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Originally posted by Michael View PostPhoronix server expenses alone cost $500+ per month..... My electrical expenses area lot more, not counting all other expenses. Heck, I'm going to move to Indiana from Chicago soon to lower expenses.
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Originally posted by Luke View PostThat goes to the difference in incomes among people: to me a reliable source of several hundred dollars a month would be one hell of a lot of money and
a game-changer.
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If you want to deal with AdBlock users, use non-invasive advertising. If I have a fresh install of Firefox or something and haven't put AdBlock on there yet, as soon as I visit Phoronix I am reminded to go get AdBlock, instantly. No other website I visit is littered with advertising as much as Phoronix.
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A few hundred a month would be very serious money to me!
Originally posted by Michael View PostThat'd likely generate only a few hundred or so a month, if that.... I really don't see it being a viable revenue source.
a game-changer.
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Honestly, the text link ads aren't the most annoying. Its the pop over ad that is the most annoying.
I don't have flash... so with adblock off I just see a bunch of missing plugin spaces. Very rarely I will see an actual ad.
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