There's Still No Sign Of AMD's Low-Cost ARM Development Boards

[Brane215]

Sadly I think AMD has gone stupid with respect to ARM based hardware. I really see ARM based hardware as the way forward for modern computing systems. The fact that ARM is going after the super computing market ought to highlight the potential in the hardware. Combine that with the problems Intel and AMD have with hardware bloat in their chips ought to have shown AMD the path to the future.

You are neglecting the golden fact that AMD is only alternate x86 source that has the licence that enables them to compete there.They absolutely ahd to ration their resources and this is the battle they could not afford to lose. With ARM they would be in the best case just one of many, with x86 they are alternate source in game of two players, where other player is so massive it creates its own gravity.

With Zen out, fresh cash will flow in, their stock value will jump and they will get to breathe a little so they can follow with Zen+ then ARM's time will come, this time preferably with some seroious in-house designed competitor.

[starshipeleven]

because there was no competitor to save by that time

considering how it is going, if Zen fails there would be very little to save on x86 too.

[pal666]

AT&T was axed to split it

because there was no competitor to save by that time

[starshipeleven]

no, it is an issue for state and state has history of pouring billions into failing companies

I thought US axed monopolists to split them instead. AT&T was axed to split it. I admit I'm not following this as I'm not a US citizen so I track closely other nations, did this change in more recent times in the US?

[pal666]

That's an issue for Intel, not for AMD. If that happens it's Intel that gets axed, not AMD that is resurrected.

no, it is an issue for state and state has history of pouring billions into failing companies

[pal666]

Any sense in this speculation or no?

no sense

[pal666]

A Xeon D is still a vastly better processor if you are into the microserver market

when you lose on benchmarks to much cheaper competition on two generation older process, you are vastly inferior

[starshipeleven]

that will make intel monopoly, so it is not that simple

That's an issue for Intel, not for AMD. If that happens it's Intel that gets axed, not AMD that is resurrected.

Although Intel is already in monopoly in server and laptop, and near-monopoly in desktop market.

[pal666]

X86 has software availability, plain and simple.

yes, windows software on torrent sites. who cares?

[starshipeleven]

Wouldn't call a Smart TV SoC market neither lo margin nor overflowing with competition one.

That's your own problem, embedded market is low-margin and there is fierce competition.

Zen is in active development more than 3 years now & we only had a glimpse at prototype recently so all in all you will find my prediction of 5 years as pretty much accurate one.

No it is not, they changed their mind in 2012, and started in 2013. To be stuff that has 5 years they would have been developing this since 2011 or something which is not possible as they were well into their failed architecture back then.

What development efforts? Licensing a POP IP cores from ARM & putting them together with available GPU's from APU's. I ensure you how that require a bare minimum of development efforts. Actually MTK risen doing it like that.

GPUs from APUs break the power budget of the overwhelming majority of devices, they need to scale them down a lot.

& I don't give a shit what big companies give shit about

But AMD does as they deal with companies if they make SoCs for embedded, so yes they care.

so I will always give my money rather to Qualcomm than MTK

Are you a big company buying batches of 100k SoCs? No? Then your opinion is irrelevant.

I am not certain that you even know what embedded is. Their mostly aren't any dedicated GPU's in embedded microcontroller products not even 2D ones.

Embedded is a broad category spanning pretty much all electronic devices that aren't PCs.
And yes, more often than not (if they have a screen at all) they only have display controllers, more rarely 2D GPUs, VERY VERY VERY rarely 3D capable GPUs.
So I don't see why the fuck would someone actually care about AMD's good 3D GPUs in that segment.