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  • ferry
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    Originally posted by xiando View Post
    Just a tip, when you see graphs turn out the way these did just exclude AMD E-350. While it's a datapoint extra it's so off the rest that it "ruins the graphs" somewhat since the rest become compressed. They didn't really sell many of them anyway.
    The graphs are ruined for another reason: Performance is a relative measure. And as with most relative relative measures we are mostly interested in 'how much more / less'. What you need with performance measurements is a logarithmic measure ln(nr of sec.), but this give a non-intuitive value and you loose the relation with real world results, same as with an 'index'. Best solution is to use a logarithmic scale.

    Michael, how about that?

    (graph done with LO Calc, any mistyped benchmarks are unintentional)

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  • Azpegath
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    Michael, how many threads are used during the compilation tests?

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  • carewolf
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    I think you should have eithrer removed the AMD E-350 or used a logarithmic or squareroot scale, as is it is almost impossible to read the graphs

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  • Michael_S
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    It's funny how the 1990s and early 2000s spoil us. My parents' first computer was ludicrously expensive in 1996 with its Pentium processor screaming along at 120MHz. The replacement in 2002 or so was at 700 MHz and had a larger cache. Imagine that kind of jump.

    Three desktops in my house have AMD chips from 2010-2013. But I've got 12GB+ of RAM and SSD for the boot drive in each box, and I really don't see anything here to make me upgrade.

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  • Adarion
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    I would have expected an i7 8086 K CPU - especially today(!).
    It's 40 years of i 8086.

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  • austin754
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    Originally posted by tildearrow View Post
    Why did you miss BLAKE2? It'd have been useful to see real regardless-of-clock-differences single-core performance over the years...
    Note that aobench, encode-mp3, encode-flac, compress-zstd and scimark2 are all single threaded. Some of these might be slightly limited by I/O (encode-flac) and some by memory (compress-zstd and to lesser extent scimark2). However, overall I would expect them to give at least an overall comparison of single-thread performance.

    As far as blake2 goes, the workload runs in less than 0.5 seconds on my i7-4770 (~0.47 seconds) and hence will be even faster on the the fastest CPUs. I put more stock in a single-threaded benchmark like compress-zstd that runs for a more reasonable time than a benchmark that finishes in less than half a second.

    --mev

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  • audi.rs4
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    Originally posted by TeoLinuX View Post

    I'm on the same boat mate...
    I'd like to have a decent performance with a NAS raid z1 on nas4free (3 HDD) and to run Plex with no real time re-encoding
    Any idea of a Mobo+CPU replacement with low power consumption with a budget below $400 ?
    AMD is just releasing a 2700e model, which is still 8 cores, but at a TDP of 45w. Pair that with any AM4 motherboard that fits your needs and you have one excellent machine to feed Plex and handle any transcoding. The Ryzens all support ECC too, so if you get the right motherboard, you can use ECC memory.

    Myself, I have a AMD Opteron 8 core with TDP of 35W. Found a Supermicro motherboard for it that has 8+ sata connections, dual ethernet and IMPI for remote KVM access. CPU I got for $20 and motherboard for around $100. The Opteron 8 core though only at 2Ghz, is able to transcode even my direct Bluray and HD-DVD content to 5Mbps real-time for viewing. Being an Opteron, it of course uses ECC memory.

    AMD Opteron 4365 EE
    Supermicro H8SCM-F Socket C32 AMD Opteron 4000

    Good luck.

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  • xiando
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    Just a tip, when you see graphs turn out the way these did just exclude AMD E-350. While it's a datapoint extra it's so off the rest that it "ruins the graphs" somewhat since the rest become compressed. They didn't really sell many of them anyway.

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  • schmidtbag
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    Originally posted by TeoLinuX View Post
    I'd like to have a decent performance with a NAS raid z1 on nas4free (3 HDD) and to run Plex with no real time re-encoding
    Any idea of a Mobo+CPU replacement with low power consumption with a budget below $400 ?
    There are plenty of options. If you're finding an E-350 is struggling to keep up with your workload but still usable, $400 can buy you quite a bit. My home server uses an Athlon 5350 (which actually isn't a whole lot better than the E-350 in terms of IPC) and it handles a RAID setup and media streaming just fine. But, I actually use a discrete RAID controller and I only play 1080p content from it (though, the Ethernet connection does have the bandwidth for 4K). Having a discrete RAID controller can significantly reduce CPU overhead on such low-end hardware. This is important when you've got a task that is intensive on both the disk and CPU (like media streaming).

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  • Zan Lynx
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    Originally posted by TeoLinuX View Post

    I'm on the same boat mate...
    I'd like to have a decent performance with a NAS raid z1 on nas4free (3 HDD) and to run Plex with no real time re-encoding
    Any idea of a Mobo+CPU replacement with low power consumption with a budget below $400 ?
    Newegg has a bundle with exactly what I have: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Combo...=Combo.3482468

    You'd need some DDR4 memory to put on it. And a video card.

    I like that Asus PRO board because it has 8 SATA ports. Lots of the cheaper boards have only 4. Or only 2 if it's one of the small ones.

    I suppose you could save quite a bit of money by getting one of the Ryzen APUs that include the GPU. If you're like me you have extra video cards lying around in the closet.
    Last edited by Zan Lynx; 08 June 2018, 01:50 PM.

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