Radeon RX Vega 56 & 64 Launch: $399+, Available 14 August

[bug77]

If they do, great.
But the shear scale of the work and its evident difficulty makes it seem like too much effort to backport.
It's not really comparable with enabling AMD polaris for Leap 42.3 on the 4.4.x kernel...

What do you mean "too much effort"? HWE = HardWare Enablement, adding support for newer hardware is the whole reason these exist. See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack

Keep in mind that in order to offer stability these are still not necessarily the latest releases and are still spaced 4 months apart. But they're way better than being stuck for 2 years with the same kernel and X.

[Jedibeeftrix]

i'm pretty sure they do release hardware enablements

I don't know how exactly suse handles kernel updates, but Ubuntu gets those with their HWE Stacks. If AMD fails the finish line for 3.14, you will still get support after a while via HWE Stack.

If they do, great.
But the shear scale of the work and its evident difficulty makes it seem like too much effort to backport.
It's not really comparable with enabling AMD polaris for Leap 42.3 on the 4.4.x kernel...

[bug77]

I'm not optimistic DC will be ready in 4 months anyway...

I meant, 4 months after 18.04 is out...

[untore]

As usual, it's better to wait a bit and let things settle down first.

is this still a good advice since cryptomining? an nvidia 10606g is currently cheaper then a 480x8g and 1070 cheaper than. 580x8g.

[pal666]

It would still be 4 months till the first HWE release...

but 4 is less than 60, isn't it? and less than nvidia's eternity

[pal666]

Performance in DX12 an Vulkan is not because of better driver support, but because of the conscious decision Nvidia made to cut back on the compute power while stuck at 28nm.

i take it all amd decisions are inconscious. actually nvidia just always sucks at compute power

[pal666]

The 300 series is not even mentioned because it's the same silicon as the 200 series

lol, what is fury's silicon in the 200 series? it is not mentioned because nobody mentioned it, that is all

and RX 400 is recognized as a "simple" process change

but you forgot to tell this shit amd devs and they had to write new driver

[pal666]

I don't know which driver team you know, but in real life: https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017...ew_fine_wine/3
With a few exceptions, the cards gained something like 3-4fps. I'd say launch day performance is pretty relevant still.

wtf that is windows driver, we are talking about mesa here

[pal666]

Please AMD, do whatever you need to do to get DC in 4.14.
Ubuntu 18.04 and Suse Leap 15 are both LTS releases, and since changes of this magnitude are unlikely to be backported, the likely result would be no native driver support by the [intended] consumer driver for the five years these releases will be 'live'.

i'm pretty sure they do release hardware enablements

[pal666]

It will beat it if it's at the same level as the GTX 1070. But it will need way more power than your GTX 1060 to do it.
But here come the cons:
- as Michael has noted, Vega needs DC and DC is not mainlined yet -> no out of the box open source support for a while

lol, how "not mainlined" can be worse than nvidia? it's better, proper nvidia driver doesn't exist at all