Originally posted by schmidtbag
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But on the other hand when you compute graphics you mainly need computational power. It's not that much of a difference when you are pretty sure there are no other significant bottlenecks.
And Vega has tons of it in various shapes. And when you make use of these shapes it should eventually perform better than the competition. So as an example, when you display hair you don't need that much precise numbers. So when you compute hair with the awareness of this it might have either a positive impact in performance by the same amount of objects or on the image quality with an increased amount of objects without a decrease in performance. Of course RPGs are more predestined to make use of this than other genres and it is a little bit of work.
In my opinion the Vega GPU is absolutely fine. But I see the main problem in its distribution. And this can probably be solved with Raven Ridge and EPYC embedded. Because in all these chips there is a little Vega. And in all the Linux "consoles" that are powered with them will be a little Vega...
But there is no doubt that it is still a long way of continuous work for AMD to convince the professional hardware customers. You really can't imagine how irrational and uninformed many of these people buy hardware although it's their job. It will take time for some of them to even notice that there is a significant difference between Ryzen and Bulldozer.
But the distribution of these consoles will help Linux the same way like Vega and AMD. Both have/are amazing products that need to gain market share in order to get more support by the same third parties. I am very optimistic though because the price for the performance of the APUs will make the difference and I really hope that the 7nm process will underpin the benefits by significantly more shaders and/or CPU cores.
I mean when you look at the actions of Nvidia they look pretty mean but on the other hand it's very desperate. They have no clue what else they could do to get out of the situation they are in. The economic numbers do still look very positive but they are losing the entry market for discrete GPUs because of the cheap, power saving APUs. It is foreseeable that they will eventually lose the mid-range soon as well. The mining situation is very positive for their business because it made the discrete AMD GPUs unreasonably expensive for gaming. But the APUs are on another market, independent from memory chips. There will be a point in time when they can't preserve the convenient situation that games are usually just optimized for their hardware anymore because it will be too expensive without entry-level GPU sales.
And the massive majority of GPUs being integrated chips instead of discrete cards I am very sure that this way might indeed lead to a significant market share of Vega GPUs.
Originally posted by Adarion
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When there were stable currencies that aren't coupled it would not be necessary to do this strongly ecologically harmful stuff.
When specific local authorities would not subsidize electrical power for industries so they pay only 2 cents while a private citizen has to pay 30 cents in some countries it would not be economically reasonable to this extend.
When authorities would not justify rationally criminal acts against the privacy of citizens, like the limitation of free speech, of free information with the hypocritical potential prevention of abstract crime it would not be necessary for the people to create new ways of anonymous transactions.
In my opinion these are mainly negative effects of antisocial global misguidance. There is a fluent transition between an imbalance and a massive imbalance which can even result in civil war. I do hope very much that the world leaders notice the emerging imbalance of the last 15 years and regain prudence to protect every individual and restore the separation of powers, the homogeneity of markets and the preservation of communal infrastructure before we get serious issues here.
And when an autonomous car overruns a person in an area where you would usually drive very carefully as a human instead of exceeding the actual speed limit as an example it must not be that the police tells people that it would have been hard to be prevented by a human driver when the car hasn't even braked at all as it seems.
That's just bullshit. A person has been robbed of her life and there is nothing material that would ever compensate this incident. It is absolutely reckless to allow autonomous machines on public streets when you haven't ensured that these machines are able to recognize dangerous situations and estimate possible mistakes of others just like real people. Because people do make mistakes but I have never seen any machine that is able to react to completely unexpected behavior like a human.
I can't remember a point in my life that people were more greedy, dishonest and disrespectful toward life than today.
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