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[dee.]

Males are the best judges of whether something is sexist or not.

Heterosexuals are the best judges whether something is oppressive to LGBT people or not.

White people are the best judges of whether something is racist or not.

White heterosexual upper-middle-class males who have been mollycoddled all their lives by their upper-middle-class mommies, been given trophies for every single thing they do and everything paid for them from education to cars and apartments, who have never had to really struggle for anything, apparently are the best judges of whether outreach programs for minority groups are necessary or not.

[moilami]

A sexist comment. Why am I not surprised?

Maybe because this is Internet and thus you knew that especially anonymous people can say the truth no matter is it politically correct or not

[moilami]

Males are the best judges of whether something is sexist or not.

Heterosexuals are the best judges whether something is oppressive to LGBT people or not.

White people are the best judges of whether something is racist or not.

White heterosexual upper-middle-class males who have been mollycoddled all their lives by their upper-middle-class mommies, been given trophies for every single thing they do and everything paid for them from education to cars and apartments, who have never had to really struggle for anything, apparently are the best judges of whether outreach programs for minority groups are necessary or not.

I found that comment totally rascist and extremely negatively biased towards heterosexual white meat eater males. I ask you to remember James Bond is a white heterosexual meat eater man too

[justmy2cents]

Doh?! Here's the most recent (march) story that has gone mainstream. Just to give a sense of the scale: it's about one of the most visible devs over at one of the most visible startups, and the linked article is from one of the leading IT online sites.

you mean... that kind of story can only happen... if you're female? wake up... backstabbing, abusing power, lying is just common human nature and there is no specific target to it except being available. some people just seek excuses in any form

as for mainstream, you have to wonder what some people with drama meant. one has to make drama to make it as visible as that.

[Akiva]

Check your priviledge

I for one refuse to support gnome until they reach out to the necropheliac community, otherwise they are just favouring one priviledged group over another.

[cynical]

Doh?! Here's the most recent (march) story that has gone mainstream. Just to give a sense of the scale: it's about one of the most visible devs over at one of the most visible startups, and the linked article is from one of the leading IT online sites.

And the funny thing about that story is the lack of sexism in it. If you actually read it she talks about how she was bullied by a founder's wife, hit on by a male coworker, and made uncomfortable by other women hula hooping for male spectators. None of that is related to discrimination in any way.

[erendorn]

Males are the best judges of whether something is sexist or not.

Heterosexuals are the best judges whether something is oppressive to LGBT people or not.

White people are the best judges of whether something is racist or not.

White heterosexual upper-middle-class males who have been mollycoddled all their lives by their upper-middle-class mommies, been given trophies for every single thing they do and everything paid for them from education to cars and apartments, who have never had to really struggle for anything, apparently are the best judges of whether outreach programs for minority groups are necessary or not.

Haha true but well, for what it's worth, as an upper-class made-by-the-system heterosexual white meat-eater male, I can tell that there is a lot of unconscious sexism in the workplace, and especially in IT.
And as most of the time the offenders don't realize they are doing it, they get especially buthurt when someone points it out.

[kigurai]

Haha true but well, for what it's worth, as an upper-class made-by-the-system heterosexual white meat-eater male, I can tell that there is a lot of unconscious sexism in the workplace, and especially in IT.
And as most of the time the offenders don't realize they are doing it, they get especially buthurt when someone points it out.

Absolutely. And I think that is the kind of sexism that we should try to target. First of all because I think it is the most widespread, and second because these individuals probably don't have bad intentions. Tjey just haven't realized that there is a problem or that they are part of it.
The more direct hateful kind (this thread makes a nice 8 page example) are harder to reach. I think the only thing that can change their behaviour is if the rest of us make it clear that gender-inequality and sexism is not funny and not accepted.

[dee.]

Haha true but well, for what it's worth, as an upper-class made-by-the-system heterosexual white meat-eater male, I can tell that there is a lot of unconscious sexism in the workplace, and especially in IT.
And as most of the time the offenders don't realize they are doing it, they get especially buthurt when someone points it out.

Well, that's the thing about sexism. It's not like there's some kind of evil conspiracy of hooded people working in the shadows to keep women in the kitchen. Or, well... there might be, but that's beside the point.

The real problem is the attitudes, the things that people just know because "everybody knows they're true" and never think to question. The real problem is the lack of critical thinking skills, the fear of admitting your ignorance, the fear of accepting new ideas... it's like, sexist ideas are encoded into our culture, the countless small things that form the basis for a lot of our habits, customs, behaviours, beliefs...

And here's the interesting part - women aren't immune to sexism, either. You don't have to look very far to find women who adamantly insist that a woman should be a housewife and subservient to men. That's called internalized sexism, by the way.

And it's the same thing with every other kind of discrimination and prejudice. Small-minded parents, who never learned critical thinking skills from their own parents, accept all the prejudices and fears of their parents, and in turn pass these prejudices and fears to their own children who never question them because they also never get taught critical thinking skills. Racism, homophobia... it's all just a huge circle of stupidity, spanning over generations... and you can see the latest fruit of that process in people like "moilami". It's these mollycoddled little mama's boys who can't fathom the idea that the world doesn't revolve around them... these manchild neckbeards to whom the very notion that the world isn't made for their needs is alien and scary... they're the root of the problem. Selfishness, entitlement, lack of education and the inability to see things from another person's perspective...

And of course, people become butthurt. If someone has spent their entire life thinking the world is flat, if the people who raised them have taught them all their life that the world is flat - of course they don't want to question that. Of course they become angry and defensive when someone suggests that maybe the world isn't flat.

[kigurai]

...and you can see the latest fruit of that process in people like "moilami". It's these mollycoddled little mama's boys who can't fathom the idea that the world doesn't revolve around them... these manchild neckbeards to whom the very notion that the world isn't made for their needs is alien and scary... they're the root of the problem. Selfishness, entitlement, lack of education and the inability to see things from another person's perspective...

And of course, people become butthurt. If someone has spent their entire life thinking the world is flat, if the people who raised them have taught them all their life that the world is flat - of course they don't want to question that. Of course they become angry and defensive when someone suggests that maybe the world isn't flat.

While I agree with the larger notion of your post, I don't think name calling will help. If anything this forum could use a lot less of that.